RKMBs Forums .::Important::. Fortress of Awesome Chat Kamphausen's banning policies?

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Originally posted by Dave the Wonder Boy:
I can vouch for the fact that I've been warned many times by Rob on the DC boards, and was banned in January of 2003 for 1 week.

I think the only reason I haven't been banned more often is because when Rob warns me, I usually back way off, until 3 or 4 months later when Mondo Joe X, Prometheus X, whomod, heffalump, NotSuper, OMEGA MAN, Mirrorball Man, patchwork, and the like start laying into me with personal remarks, and I feel obligated to respond.

It's reached a point on the DC boards where if it's not directed at me personally, 19 times out of 20 I'll read the topic and not respond. Because whatever I write, if it's heavily political, the entire topic will almost always be deleted from the DC boards within 2 or 3 days anyway, so why bother?

But it's often frustrated me that the above listed posters can say what they say, and not be suspended or banned.
But Rob doesn't disclose that info to anyone but the poster him/her self.

So Rob may have banned them, and I just don't know about it. But for all I see and know, they just go on and on insulting myself and others without suspension or interruption.

And so often I've seen posts and pointed them out to Rob, and he says:
"Well, I just don't think it's that bad.."
or:
"I don't think it quite rises to the level",
or often he says:
"well, I just don't see that he's doing anything that you're not doing too, so if I ban him, I'd have to warn/ban you too."

Much to my frustration.

Because when some schmuck calls my Phillipine girlfriend a "mail-order bride" or that I "can't handle American women", or similar imflammatory remarks, I definitely think it DOES rise to the level, that it IS that bad, and that they force me to respond to something that should be deleted, but there it sits.
And then I get warned for just responding to this nonsense.???!???

I like Rob, and I generally agree with the way he handles the DC boards, and he's very open to discussing any areas of dispute you e-mail him about.
And I understand that no two of us will agree 100% on where the line is drawn on what is acceptable or unacceptable posts. It's a judgement call.

I think Dave (a.k.a. Typhoid Dave, Dark Typhoid Dave, etc.) demonstrates well how someone can post liberal views and not be banned.

Because T-Dave is respectful and not slanderous or personally insulting in the way he presents his views.

I think--and certainly hope-- that I present my conservative views with a similar lack of rancor. I can be a little hot-tempered when I've been misrepresented or insulted, but endeavor to be polite, often even when I've been provoked.
Although I've certainly had my ill-tempered moments, most of which are preserved in the Grant Morrison topics. Clearly provoked.

I enjoy reading T-Dave's views, and those of many others whose views are to the left of mine. I generally find it informative to read liberal views, and see issues from the fresh perspective of a view very different from my own.

T-Dave, I can certainly be passionate in expressing my own perspective, and certainly hope that's never mistaken for a lack of respect for your views. I greatly enjoy reading what you have to say.

And Lildeath as well at times, although his tone has changed in the last year or so. But I love his posts to the ODCUT "Superhero Sex" topics, which were tremendous fun.

To a large degree I enjoy the posts of other self-stated liberals as well, such as whomod, Steven Utley, and at times even Mondo Joe X, and others, who at other times I've clashed with.

I actually feel like the DC Boards are overwhelmingly liberal, because for example, you can post whatever you want on the DC boards about how Bush "stole" the 2000 election from Gore, etc., virtually unchallenged.
But anyone who posts an opinion favoring conservatives or Christianity gets shouted down from all sides, and the topic is driven to a level of rancor that it gets deleted. I believe some of the more bitter ODCUT liberals do this purposefully.

Whereas there are many gay discussions on the DC boards, and they don't get deleted, because conservatives don't pursue gay topics until they get deleted.

Some sample topics where liberalism and personal insult rules on the Other DC Universe Topics boards (while they last) :

"Why do you hate ULTIMATE Marvel?"
http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/files/Forum94/HTML/014783.html

"Ah, the brilliance that is Grant Morrison..."
http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/files/Forum94/HTML/011014.html

"Pretentious: where to draw the line"
http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/files/Forum94/HTML/011024.html

"I've heard Byrne, Miller, Moore are now hacks..."
http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/files/Forum94/HTML/011060.html

"Wheezergeezers and Whippersnappers"
http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/files/Forum94/HTML/012284.html

"Morrison's grand plans for the DCU"
http://dcboards.warnerbros.com/files/Forum94/HTML/014959.html


Plus many others that have been deleted.

Many of these have lasted as long as they have because I let them go without posts, forgotten, for several months until things cool down.

The flame-wars seem to happen in waves, every few months. And on other DC sections I find the level of rancor much lower, where more political discussions can be discussed without getting as bitter as they do in the ODCUT section.

I think that being deleted or banned is not so much about discussing political issues at all, as the WAY it is discussed. Most of the topics above, and other deleted ones are not so much banned due to discussing politics at all, but because of the LACK OF CIVILITY, and the personally insulting inflammatory way with which it is discussed.

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