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I fear for this country and our continued ability to compete scientifically, I really do. Carbon dating is suspect, fossil evidence is suspect but the talking snake has to be taken at face value. 
So essentially what you're saying is, you're trying to draw attention away from the fact that modern dating tools aren't at all 100% credible by using ad hominem, once again, and popular opinion.
Gotcha.
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I didn't say that all parts of the Bible was wrong, at least the historical parts. I think there have been a great flood, but it was much, much more limited than you might think, probably in line with the floodings around Eufrat and Tigris. But Genesis is certainly a part which should only be interpreted as a poetic tale.
Not according to that geology you reference so much. World topography evolution over the past 10,000 years has shown evidence of a world-wide flood.
That must have been disputed quite a lot, then. Not that I find it incredible, but still.
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BTW, I saw something interesting on Discovery Channel some years ago, which I think had to do with the flood you mentioned. I think Atlantis was involved, and there was a theory that the Sphinx wasn't built by the Egyptians, but by another people. The Egyptians replaced the Lion's face with the face of the current Pharao, according to that theory. But I digress.
"Batman is only meaningful as an answer to a world which in its basics is chaotic and in the hands of the wrong people, where no justice can be found. I think it's very suitable to our perception of the world's condition today... Batman embodies the will to resist evil" -Frank Miller
"Conan, what's the meaning of life?"
"To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!"
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"Well, yeah."
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Keep in mind that what I'm refering to is Macro evolution rather than micro wich is not only testable but observable. I make that distiction knowing that it's a very popular svengali routine to interchange the two types of evolution when attempting to make some points and avoid others.
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OK, this proves that you know second to nothing about the research by Charles Darwin. Evidently, you haven't heard or read about his travels to the Galapagos islands, where he discovered that the birds there had evolved from birds from other places, but had evolved to fit better in the new environment. Other scientists have made similar discoveries.
I recommend you to read the works by Francis Bacon, John Locke and/or John Stuart Mill, so you would know what emperic research is about. Rationalism is a good thing, I give you that, but it's not enough.
What have those two posts in common? I replied to Pariah, not to you. 
Perhaps you should read them both again VERY slowly and in light of one another. You may be surprised....
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So Job interacted with dinousaurs and Eve conversed with talking snakes. And a biblical "day" can be whatever one wants it to be.
gotcha.
I fear for this country and our continued ability to compete scientifically, I really do. Carbon dating is suspect, fossil evidence is suspect but the talking snake has to be taken at face value.
Note the total lack of substance given in this section. It's implied that carbon datitng is reliable and that fossil records justify the claimes made by them and conversely the fact that Job could have seen a dinosour or that teh spiritual world could intereact with the phisical by means of a talking snake are impossible. However no acctual evidence is given for te claim, we're supposed to accept it simply based on teh fact that carbon dating (a form of dating that's even been rejected now for a suposedly more accurate dating process) sounds oh so scientific and a talking snake? That's crazy!
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So Job interacted with dinousaurs and Eve conversed with talking snakes. And a biblical "day" can be whatever one wants it to be.
gotcha.
I fear for this country and our continued ability to compete scientifically, I really do. Carbon dating is suspect, fossil evidence is suspect but the talking snake has to be taken at face value.
Let's get back to Captain Sammitch's point of the days not being literal 24 hr periods.
Plant life, including fruit trees and seed bearing plants, were created on the 3rd day.
Sun and stars were created on the 4th day
Insects were created on the 6th day.
Plant life needs the sun's special light for photosynthesis or they die. So 1 day after the plants were created could not be years, else the plants would die. It must be more like 24 hours.
Fruit trees (also many seed bearing plants) need to be pollinated by insects. So the 3 days between these plants being created and Insects being created can't be the length of time (3000 years or 300 million years) claimed by old earthers.
It's metaphorical. Do you have any personality whatsoever?
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It's metaphorical. Do you have any personality whatsoever?
He does. He just doesn't express it through this Alt.
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read teh bible
Sorry, but I'm currently reading Lord of the Ring, and I plan to re-read all my Frank Miller comics.
But you could read Richard Dawkins', Stephen Jay Gould's, and Robert Ornstein's books. 
read teh lord of teh rings
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