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Hey, I emailed Norm and he said we could do an interview for us here, post your questions here and I'll email him back.
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do you see Batman as a representation of mankind's subconscious desire to have gay sex with teenage boys?
Would you ever draw a Batman book where Batman sat around reading a superman comic for the entire issue?
Does Alan Grant smell bad?
Which Batman is your favorite:
Bruce Wayne, or Michael Keaton?
How come all of your pencils are inked over? Does that offend you?
Which issue of Batman that you worked on had all the hidden Nostradamus Prophecies?
Did you ever read the scripts first, or did you just draw whatever you wanted and threaten to stab Alan grant with your pen if he complained?
Could you beat She-Hulk in an arm wrestling contest?
Who would win in a knife fight over some cheese, Superman or Steel?
The knife is also made of cheese if that helps.
Do you remember the Blasters Special that came out of Invasion?
Bow ties are coool.
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How come Batman can stretch vertically in a northwestern direction when you drawn him?
Gingold?
Why do you think it took so long to finally get some cool artists working on Batman?
on that note..
Were you the new Jim Aparo?
From Washington Times interview with DeLay:
Mr. Hurt: Have you ever crossed the line of ethical behavior in terms of dealing with lobbyists, your use of government authority or with fundraising?
Mr. DeLay: Ever is a very strong word.
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So who the fuck is Norm Breyfogle?
you should ask him that one. seriously.
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Would you ever draw a Batman book where Batman sat around reading a superman comic for the entire issue?
Nicely played.
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norm is one of the better batman artists of the late 80s, early 90s. cool, dynamic style
http://www.jkrweb.com/comics/breyfogle.cfm
i'd like to ask how much artistic influence he's allowed to make, as an illustrator on a flagship character?
i.e;, say, for example, he hates the outside undies batman wears. is he allowed to voice his concern, then omit them from the design during his tenure?
is he at least allowed to argue his point or make a case for something like that to an editor?
like kelley jones, norm seems to be a big fan of the larger-than-life "ears" on batman's costume, which i'd think would be a similar type of suit alteration (or at least visual presentation of such). did that have to receive the same kind of "clearance"?
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Dear Norm:
Are you a regular in any bars? If so, do they scream "NORM!" whenever you come in?
Thanks,
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Norm:
When will we ever see you draw a sequel to Mr. T and the T-Force?!?!!!!!!!?
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Norm:
Who are your influences in the business?
What is your favorite issue/storyline that YOU drew in your career?
Whose work do you regularly read/enjoy?
What project or projects do you have coming up?
Would you consider dating my sister?
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Norm rules!
My favourite Bat artist!
I grew up on the great stuff he did with Grant.
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Why was Tim Drake's mother killed off, back in the day? Tim was already a Robin, he didn't "need" a motive of veangence or grief, so why?
"Batman is only meaningful as an answer to a world which in its basics is chaotic and in the hands of the wrong people, where no justice can be found. I think it's very suitable to our perception of the world's condition today... Batman embodies the will to resist evil" -Frank Miller
"Conan, what's the meaning of life?"
"To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!"
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"Well, yeah."
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i'll take questions till tomorrow.
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Why did a person steal my entire box of detective comic books..??? Why,, and why can't I find replacements except online?
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Please be good to Norm, he is a good dude.
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Norm rules!
My favourite Bat artist!
I grew up on the great stuff he did with Grant.
That's not a question, Steve. 
Bow ties are coool.
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It was just a few months before he started on his DETECTIVE COMICS run that I started collecting all the Batman comics, and, to me, the Norm Breyfogle version of Batman stands alongside Neal Adams and Dick Sprang for quality. The cover featuring Batman swooping in behind the Crime Doctor in one of his early Detective issues still sticks in my mind. I am definitely a fan (though I still wonder why he did the Mr. T and the T-Force comic).
So I'd like to know how Norm Breyfogle landed the Batman gig. Did the DC editors (i.e. Denny O'Neil or others) like his work from elsewhere and approach him for the job? Or did he approach DC looking for work specifically with the Batman character?
Norm's work was completely new to me when I saw his artwork in Detective Comics for the first time -- what experience did he have in comics before then, and how much did it have to do with his getting the Batman gig?
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Why was Tim Drake's mother killed off, back in the day? Tim was already a Robin, he didn't "need" a motive of veangence or grief, so why?
I think my question would be why didn't they kill Tim's Dad as well.
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I would also like to know if Mr. Breyfogle would consider dating Joe Mama's sister.
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Seriously, though, huge Norm Breyfogle fan. I can't believe he'd actually take questions from some random message board. That's really cool of him.
I guess I'll just ask the stereotypical questions(disregard if already asked):
What was your favorite Detective Comics run, not counting your own? Do you still keep up with the title, or the numerous other Batbooks?
Who influenced you as an artist?
Who would be the one writer you've yet to work with that you'd like to someday?
MisterJLA is RACKing awesome.
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Also:
How was working for a smaller company like Malibu different from working for a huge company like DC?
What is your opinion of Jason Todd being brought back from the dead?
Are the bat-editors as difficult to work with as they are rumored to be?
MisterJLA is RACKing awesome.
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Seriously, though, huge Norm Breyfogle fan. I can't believe he'd actually take questions from some random message board. That's really cool of him.
He's a cool guy. I spent a few months at his MB before it closed.
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It was just a few months before he started on his DETECTIVE COMICS run that I started collecting all the Batman comics, and, to me, the Norm Breyfogle version of Batman stands alongside Neal Adams and Dick Sprang for quality. The cover featuring Batman swooping in behind the Crime Doctor in one of his early Detective issues still sticks in my mind. I am definitely a fan (though I still wonder why he did the Mr. T and the T-Force comic).
So I'd like to know how Norm Breyfogle landed the Batman gig. Did the DC editors (i.e. Denny O'Neil or others) like his work from elsewhere and approach him for the job? Or did he approach DC looking for work specifically with the Batman character?
Norm's work was completely new to me when I saw his artwork in Detective Comics for the first time -- what experience did he have in comics before then, and how much did it have to do with his getting the Batman gig?
I know he had done the art for a comic about a female ninja, "Whisper", with Steven Grant as writer and Janice Cohen as colorist.
"Batman is only meaningful as an answer to a world which in its basics is chaotic and in the hands of the wrong people, where no justice can be found. I think it's very suitable to our perception of the world's condition today... Batman embodies the will to resist evil" -Frank Miller
"Conan, what's the meaning of life?"
"To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!"
-Conan the Barbarian
"Well, yeah."
-Jason E. Perkins
"If I had a dime for every time Pariah was right about something I'd owe twenty cents."
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He actually made Batman look good in blue!
Me No Rikey Rob, he's a banana queer!
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If you're still taking questions:
How often do you use models? Do you start with gesture drawings or just make it all up?
Who is the funnest character for you to draw? Who is your favorite and least favorite?
What do you absolutely hate drawing (cars, landscapes, hands, noses, crotchpants etc)?
Any little-known but rad-as-hell comics you can clue us into?
Are you going to the International Comic-Con this summer in San Diego? I need to know what issues to pack...
Will you father my children?
Don't you just HATE Superman?
Old men, fear me! You will shatter under my ruthless apathetic assault!
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i just sent the questions.
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Thing is- I can’t spell or type. I spell so badly my spell check doesn’t even know what I was trying to spell. And I have five Eisners HAHAHAHHA!!
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no that was the research thread.
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The RKMBS Norm Breyfogle Interview. Norms responses are in italics
Norm,
There was quite a response to having the chance to ask questions of you, many serious some silly and some very strange. Feel free to answer as many or as little as you like. I really appreciate you taking the time for this.
Here they go:
TTT asks: It was just a few months before he started on his DETECTIVE COMICS run that I started collecting all the Batman comics, and, to me, the Norm Breyfogle version of Batman stands alongside Neal Adams and Dick Sprang for quality. The cover featuring Batman swooping in behind the Crime Doctor in one of his early Detective issues still sticks in my mind. I am definitely a fan (though I still wonder why he did the /Mr. T and the T-Force/ comic).
So I'd like to know how you landed the Batman gig. Did the DC editors (i.e. Denny O'Neil or others) like your work from elsewhere and approach him for the job? Or did you approach DC looking for work specifically with the Batman character?
Your work was completely new to me when I saw it in Detective Comics for the first time -- what experience did you have in comics before then, and how much did it have to do with his getting the Batman gig?
Hey, TTT. So, are you three times tougher than Mr. T?
The Crime Doctor cover was the very first of my DC Comics covers ever, if I remember correctly.
I did Mr. T because they offered me $1000 / page. I initially turned it down because I had no time to squeeze it in, but they kept upping the ante until I had to say yes. That's still, to this day, my best paying job in comics I've had.
I attended the San Diego Con in '84 and entered the art shows. Mike Friedrich (of the now defunct talent rep company Star Reach) saw my work hanging there (I won 2nd place behind Mobieus, btw) and later contacted me and began repping me. I told him from the beginning that I wanted to draw Batman, so a couple years later (while I was drawing Whisper, from First Comics) when DC was looking for an artist on Detective Comics, Mike set up a meeting between me and Dick Giordano (who was visiting near me on the west coast when I lived out there), and soon DC gave me a trial issue, which they liked enough to hire me for the monthly book.
As an amateur, I'd been a Batman fan since I was a tot, and as soon as I could draw I remember drawing Batman (as well as other characters). Growing up, I learned to paint as well, and got a well-rounded education as an artist (which can be read about on my website's biography at normbreyfogle.com). By the time I got the Batman gig I'd been working in comics professionally for two years or so, first on single stories for DC's New Talent Showcase and Eclipse's Tales of Terror, and then on the monthly features Bob Violence and Whisper (First Comics).
Rob Kamphausen asks: How much artistic influence are you allowed to make, as an illustrator on a flagship character? i.e;, say, for example, you hates the outside undies batman wears. Are you allowed to voice your concern, then omit them from the design during your tenure? Are you allowed to argue your point or make a case for something like that to an editor? Like kelley jones, you seem to be a big fan of the larger-than-life "ears" on batman's costume, which i'd think would be a similar type of suit alteration (or at least visual presentation of such). did that have to receive the same kind of "clearance"?
Hi, Rob.
An artist is allowed to voice his opinion, but where and when he can implement it is variable, dependent on the character and what company he's working for, even dependent, I suppose, on the individual quirks of his specific editor. And opinion-voicing can always benefit from a good dose of tact, of course.
I always assumed I could play with ear length and batmaobile designs, since I'd already seen different artists interpret these items differently for decades, but not with much else. Subtleties re his chest emblem could be altered, as well; I remember making the chest bat either fatter or skinnier with no complaints. And my design of the utility best was influenced by Frank Miller's first Dark Knight saga.
I'd never have assumed I could just remove his blue shorts without getting permission.
After the Batman movies, things became more regulated: The bat-artists were all told to draw the batmobile and Gotham City of the films, and Batman's costume was made all black by offical editorial decree.
Animalman asks: What was your favorite Detective Comics run, not counting your own? Do you still keep up with the title, or the numerous other Batbooks?
Who influenced you as an artist?
Who would be the one writer you've yet to work with that you'd like to someday?
Hi, Animalman. Why not call yourself "manimal" for short?
My fav run on Batman stuff outside of my own would have to be the Neal Adams / Dick Giordano run in the 70's.
Artistic influences from comics: Neal Adams, Dick Giordano, Joe Kubert, Curt Swan, Murphy Anderson, Nick Cardy, Bernie Wrightson, Alex Toth, Frank Frazetta, Alex Nino, Alfredo Alcala, Jim Aparo, Burne Hogarth, Frank Miller, Bill Sienkiewicz, and a ton of others - mostly artists from the 70's (my teen years).
Of course I was influenced by much art outside of comics, as well, including the classical artists (Greek and European artists of history), the impressionists and expressionists, and many artists I saw featured in publications like American Artist or Southwest Art.
I'd really like to work with Grant Morrison or either of theVietch brothers, but there's a ton of good writers out there I'd be happy to collaborate with.
Uschi asks: If you're still taking questions:
Hi, Uschi (do you like sushi?).
Uschi asks: How often do you use models?
Mostly only for faces in close-up, and not all the time, by any means.
Uschi asks: Do you start with gesture drawings or just make it all up?
I sart with made-up gesture drawings. There's an article on my website (which I wrote for Wizard's "Basic Training" years ago) that describes my page layout techniques, btw ...
Uschi asks: Who is the funnest character for you to draw? Who is your favorite and least favorite?
The funniest character I ever drew for publication would probably be Bob Violence, but I really got a kick out of the humorous qualities of Prime, too.
Teh Ventiloquist was pretty funny, too.
My fav character I've drawn would probably be Batman, but I really loved Metaphysique (for Malibu Comics), since I created and wrote it as well.
My least favorite I've drawn would be ... hmmm ... Maybe Mr. T., in spite of the fact that I did like the page rate I was getting.
Y'know, maybe Mr. T was the funniest character I ever drew, too ...
Uschi asks: What do you absolutely hate drawing (cars, landscapes, hands, noses, crotchpants etc)?
Uschi asks: Any little-known but rad-as-hell comics you can clue us into?
No, sorry, I hardly ever read comics any more. You might want to check out my decade-old Metaphysique, though.
Uschi asks: Are you going to the International Comic-Con this summer in San Diego? I need to know what issues to pack...
Probably not (unless I'm invited as a guest); I don't like spending the money otherwise. However, I will be at the Motor City Con in Detroit in May, as well as the Mid-West Comic Con and Wizard World Chicago in August.
Uschi asks: Will you father my children?
Send me a few photos of yourself, your terms in contractural form, and I'll let you know.
Uschi asks: Don't you just HATE Superman?
Er, no. Why would I? He's a sweetie.
I'm Not Mister Mxypltk:
Well, then, hi, whoever you are.
I'm Not Mister Mxypltk asks: Are you a regular in any bars?
I'm Not Mister Mxypltk asks: If so, do they scream "NORM!" whenever you come in?
Never; only at store signings have I gotten that.
Joe Mama:
Joe Mama asks: Who are your influences in the business?
See my above answer to Animalman.
Joe Mama asks: What is your favorite issue/storyline that YOU drew in your career?
Metaphysique. Not because it's my best art necessarily, but because I wrote it and own it, as well.
Joe Mama asks: Whose work do you regularly read/enjoy?
No one's. I don't have a comics store within a hundred miles of me, and I haven't yet taken to buying comics off the net.
Joe Mama asks:What project or projects do you have coming up?
I recently wrote 1314 haikus and a lot of other poetry, and got up to page 100 in a sci-fi novel I'm writing, but I had to quit writing because I'm now a full-time comics artist again, pencilling and inking a new title (Of Bitter Souls) for a production company (Relative Comics), to be published by Speakeasy Comics. The first issue will be on sale in August, and is written by my friend Charles Satterlee.
I'm calling Of Bitter Souls "Cajun ghostbusters with Matix style."
Check out Relative Comic's website:
www.relativecomics.com
And here's Speakeasy's website:
www.speakeasycomics.com
Joe Mama asks: Would you consider dating my sister?
Send me her photos and we'll discuss it if she's not a minor.
Animalman:
You again? Happy to oblige.
Animalman asks: How was working for a smaller company like Malibu different from working for a huge company like DC?
I was their biggest artistic star, and got a lot of respect. At DC I was a regular size fish in a large pond, while at Malibu I was a big fish in a small pond.
Animalman asks: What is your opinion of Jason Todd being brought back from the dead?
You mean in the Hush storyline, or something later (which I wouldn't have seen, since I stopped receiving my DC comp copies right after Hush)?
Any plot developments can be either good or bad, depending on the quality of the treatment.
Animalman asks: Are the bat-editors as difficult to work with as they are rumored to be?
Don't know; they've all changed since I last did a Batman project.
Thanks again I really appreciate this, I hope there arent too many question. I know you're busy and I appreciate you taking the time.
I'm flattered you asked me to.
Norm
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Norm Breyfogle is officially one of my new comic book heroes. Here's hoping that he appears at WizardWorld Boston at the end of September to promote Of Bitter Souls. I'd love to meet him...
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Damn you bastards. Why didn't anyone tell me this was going on! I never look at stickied topics in this forum because they're usually just fanboy rants. C'mon I say we go for round 2 of questions.
I'll start (c'mon folks go with me on this).
Q: I've seen some artist's work completely mangled by the colorist.... Has this ever happened to you?
Q: Do you think DC has gone for a youth before tallent hireing policy as of late and if so what do you as an old school vetran type guy think of that shite?
Q: If you did father Uschi's child would you want joint custody?
Q: And finally, do you ever post on Rob's boards with some sort of Alt ID?
Putting the "fun" back in Fundamentalist Christian Dogma.
" I know God exists because WBAM told me so. " - theory9
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When drawing crowd scenes, do you draw little versions of people you know?
Have you ever drawn a henchman that gets killed after someone you know?
Do you ever put yourself into comics?
Do you have Batman Pajamas/underoos?
If I bought your ticket in, would you go to the comic-con with me and my robot friend?
Did you know that a common ingredient in hair dyes and shampoos and soaps is Urea and that chemical is derived from animal pee? Do you think it might be AnimalMAN's pee?!?
Do you make yourself custom t-shirts?
What is the most comic-geek thing you have ever witnessed/taken part in?
Are you anticipating the release of Batman Begins?
Do you have any comic-inspired tattoos?
A guy runs into a bar and asks the bartender for a drink of water. The bartender tells the man, "No," and pulls a gun out from under the counter, pointing the barrel right in the man's face. The man thanks the bartender and leaves satisfied. Why did the man need a drink of water?
If you suddenly lost both of your hands in a tragic lawnmower or woodchipper accident, what would you do?
If I were to mail you some comics (with a call tag for return shipping charges) would you sign them amd send them back? (that's just if you won't go to comic-con with me and Robot) What if I sent a beer with it? Oh, nevermind... it wouldn't be the same anyhow.
Please allow me to geek out for a minute: You are the greatest comic artist I have ever seen the work of. Your art is what drew me into comics during the Knightfall storyline back when I was in elementary school (heh... still thinking about being the baby daddy? HA!). Your art is what inspired me in my drawings. I have always been facinated by the way you make the characters move on the page. Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Old men, fear me! You will shatter under my ruthless apathetic assault!
Uschi - 2
Old Men - 0
"I am convinced that this world is of no importance, and that the only people who care about dates are imbeciles and Spanish teachers." -- Jean Arp, 1921
"If Jesus came back and saw what people are doing in his name, he would never never stop throwing up." - Max von Sydow, "Hannah and Her Sisters"
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Me No Rikey Rob, he's a banana queer!
I shit on Hogan!
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Thanks for all the kind and funny sentiments, folks. I just had to pop in and see what this board is all about.
I like it.
Oh, and my own message board is back up (at normbreyfogle.com), if anyone wants to join and post there.
Wish I had the time to answer all the questions that I missed, but I'm a full time comics artist again. Maybe on my own message board ...
Last edited by Norm Breyfogle; 2005-04-16 6:20 AM.
"There is no answer,"
said the existentialist,
"and this is not it."
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ROB! ROB! NORM BREYFOGLE APPROVES! HEADLINE THE SHIT OUT OF THIS! I can picture it now... "Robkamphausen.com : officially liked by the likes of NORMal people!"
Old men, fear me! You will shatter under my ruthless apathetic assault!
Uschi - 2
Old Men - 0
"I am convinced that this world is of no importance, and that the only people who care about dates are imbeciles and Spanish teachers." -- Jean Arp, 1921
"If Jesus came back and saw what people are doing in his name, he would never never stop throwing up." - Max von Sydow, "Hannah and Her Sisters"
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Quote:
Norm Breyfogle said:
Thanks for all the kind and funny sentiments, folks. I just had to pop in and see what this board is all about.
I like it.
Oh, and my own message board is back up (at normbreyfogle.com), if anyone wants to join and post there.
Wish I had the time to answer all the questions that I missed, but I'm a full time comics artist again. Maybe on my own message board ...
NORM!
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