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First Amongst Daves said:
I agree.

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thedoctor said:
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First Amongst Daves said:
I will say though that comics seems to have a disproportionately high number of bad ones, though.



No. Look at all the shit being put on TV and in movie theaters. Let's not forget to mention books and music. Like all professions, there are comic writers who are hacks, others who are decent, a few who are above average, and the rare lot who are outstanding.



Books have an enormous screening process. Most books are of decent quality because of the effort it takes to publish them.

TV is just slightly less competitive, and worse for a writer, use focus groups to cull out the crap.

Doug Moensch once said that Time Warner regarded DC as the creative slums of the group, and I understand why. How can you disagree when one of the biggest selling comics in the last 12 months was Avengers: Disassembled? no real craftsmanship went into that, and it had multiple reprints.



Um, no, any glance over any bookstore or television station or movie marquee will prove that there is a lot of crap that does get made. Culling just as often sifts out the good with the bad, especially with these moronic "focus groups" which along with the other practices regularly used by those in marketing, is slowly killing any and all creativity across the boards in these media.

Look at the number of shit film remakes that studios are pumping out with increasing numbers. Or the sheer number of books pumped out just to fill "genre labels" on bookstore shelves. If you're a writer who's books don't conveniently fit into one of our neat little genre labels, well then sorry, but we just don't have any place to rack you on our shelves.

Time Warner may indeed still look down on DC. And with the shite like Catwoman and Constantine that they're churning out, that's very much the impression I get. But I defy you or anyone else to look at these films and judge them against say the Loeb/Sale Catwoman mini or the Brubaker/Cooke ongoing or most of Hellblazer's run and say that Time Warner has a better idea of what's a quality product.

There's very little creativity left in most big budget studio films or television and even a casual observer of the movie industry is very much aware of that fact.

And what does Dissassembled have to do with DC? Poor example for your argument. I know you're going to reply that it's an example of a successful comic book, but Marvel and DC can be apples and oranges at times. If you're going to site Time Warner's opinion of DC, then push forth some examples of DC's stupidity. There's quite a few of them out there to choose from, and I know that you're never at a loss for something to say about JSA, just as an example.

The simple truth is that 90% of most of what's out there is shite, and that goes for tv, movies, comics, music, whatever. And for any one of these industries to look down on the other's "creativity" is both arrogant and presumptuous. Especially when half of them blindly steal from comics while pretending to turn their nose up at them.

Rant over.