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I digress here,

I dont give a shit what elitist views people have about Avengers: Disassembled. I bought the shit out of it and thought it was dope. Im not less for thinking that either. For having my own preferences. Not trying to be an asshole to anyone in particular, just the mindset.



I'm not being elitist. It had big explosions and a death toll. It was The Chronicles of Riddick of comics. Some people like that shit. Other people like a decent plot.

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Rant over.




Let me start you up again.

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Um, no, any glance over any bookstore or television station or movie marquee will prove that there is a lot of crap that does get made. Culling just as often sifts out the good with the bad, especially with these moronic "focus groups" which along with the other practices regularly used by those in marketing, is slowly killing any and all creativity across the boards in these media.



Without a test audience for concepts, we'd be getting a lot more "Wild Wild West" movies.

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Look at the number of shit film remakes that studios are pumping out with increasing numbers.




Mainstream film is hard to argue with, but there is plenty of indie quality out there to keep most of us happy.

Indie comics too, for that matter.

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Or the sheer number of books pumped out just to fill "genre labels" on bookstore shelves. If you're a writer who's books don't conveniently fit into one of our neat little genre labels, well then sorry, but we just don't have any place to rack you on our shelves.



Huh? There are some excellent books out there. Books have the most rigorous content filteration system of any mass media because the margins are so low. Unless its actually good, or written by someone with a reputation, it won't see print.

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Time Warner may indeed still look down on DC. And with the shite like Catwoman and Constantine that they're churning out, that's very much the impression I get. But I defy you or anyone else to look at these films and judge them against say the Loeb/Sale Catwoman mini or the Brubaker/Cooke ongoing or most of Hellblazer's run and say that Time Warner has a better idea of what's a quality product.

There's very little creativity left in most big budget studio films or television and even a casual observer of the movie industry is very much aware of that fact.

And what does Dissassembled have to do with DC? Poor example for your argument. I know you're going to reply that it's an example of a successful comic book, but Marvel and DC can be apples and oranges at times.




Setting aside Vertigo, the content of both publishing houses is virtually interchangable. You're trying to tell me Identity Crisis couldn't have happened as an Avengers book, or Disassembled as JLA book?

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If you're going to site Time Warner's opinion of DC, then push forth some examples of DC's stupidity. There's quite a few of them out there to choose from, and I know that you're never at a loss for something to say about JSA, just as an example.




You're just trying to antagonise me now, aren't you? Everyone knows I love JSA and wouldn't miss a heartbeat of its high quality legacy goodness.

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The simple truth is that 90% of most of what's out there is shite, and that goes for tv, movies, comics, music, whatever. And for any one of these industries to look down on the other's "creativity" is both arrogant and presumptuous. Especially when half of them blindly steal from comics while pretending to turn their nose up at them.




Examples? Because on the one hand you cite Catwoman and Constantine as missing the point, and now you say other media steal comics' good ideas.

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