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They finally got it right.
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Why does Batman have to have a love interest? They're practically screaming it, "THERE HAS TO BE SEX APPEAL!!"
I guess that makes sense since they're trying to make the flick into a James Bond film for Americans.
Sorry Nolan, you ain't getting my 9.50. Not even my 2.70 (rerun theaters). Not even gonna waste my time to download it.
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Sorry Nola, you ain't getting my 9.50. Not even my 2.70 (rerun theaters). Not even gonna waste my time to download it.
Nola?
short for Granola I presume.
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Why does Batman have to have a love interest? They're practically screaming it, "THERE HAS TO BE SEX APPEAL!!"
I guess that makes sense since they're trying to make the flick into a James Bond film for Americans.
Sorry Nolan, you ain't getting my 9.50. Not even my 2.70 (rerun theaters). Not even gonna waste my time to download it.
So, you'd miss out on what could be the first decent live action Batman movie in years just because he has a love interest?
Its a superhero movie, they always have love interests.
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I am trying to understand how they are making him an American James Bond.
Is he a spy then?
Does James Bond wear a superhero costume?
Does he work for the government?
Does he introduce himself as Man,Bat Man?
Does James Bond live in a mansion with a butler & an underground cave?
Is James Bond trained as a detective?
Is James Bond a trained martial artist?
Does Batman carry a gun?
The only common ties to both characters is:
Gadgets (this has always been the case in the comics,long before Bond)
Car with gadgets (ditto)
Good guys
They are both men
Oh,and thats its!
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goddamn, that was cool.
scarecrows wormy mask, the constant "bat wing" look of the cape, the geared-up batmobile, katie holmes bigger-than-before boobies...
this is already my favorite movie of all time.
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goddamn, that was cool.
scarecrows wormy mask, the constant "bat wing" look of the cape, the geared-up batmobile, katie holmes bigger-than-before boobies...
this is already my favorite movie of all time.
I concur.
I just wish Katie Holmes didn't look exactly like my sister.
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Now she's supposedly dating Cruise...
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I love the line "A man who dresses up like a bat? sounds like he might have some issues."
Bale has a good handle on the cocky Bruce/grim Batman.
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I am trying to understand how they are making him an American James Bond.
Is he a spy then?
Does James Bond wear a superhero costume?
Does he work for the government?
Does he introduce himself as Man,Bat Man?
Does James Bond live in a mansion with a butler & an underground cave?
Is James Bond trained as a detective?
Is James Bond a trained martial artist?
Does Batman carry a gun?
The only common ties to both characters is:
Gadgets (this has always been the case in the comics,long before Bond)
Car with gadgets (ditto)
Good guys
They are both men
Oh,and thats its!
Your description's rather deceptive Nowhereman. The image doesn't have to be fucking perfect--A note, however: Bruce Wayne, in this film, has no problem using a gun. I just see the Batman legend as something built by Bruce Wayne himself, why did they have to make a regular Q out of Lucious when it's Bruce's journey? Reading the script, it's like a he's getting a helping hand throughout the movie, and that's exactly like Bond. Moreover, Nolan himself said in an interview that he's going to showcase Bruce Wayne as a type of James Bond throughout the movie.
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So, you'd miss out on what could be the first decent live action Batman movie in years just because he has a love interest?
Its a superhero movie, they always have love interests.
Love interests that are focused on as much as I saw in that preview always down-grade on a superhero film. Just look as Spiderman and The Hulk (I'd say Dare Devil as well, but that film would have sucked either way).
As far as I'm concerned, the first Superman movie got it right, as did Batman Returns. Both were not only loyal to the comicbook in terms of meeting one another and how they gained attraction, but they fit well with the movie without making it a sappy piece of shit.
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You obviously know nothing of Bat history!
If you go back to the early issues,Bats used a gun & had a love interest so thats all part of Bat mythos.
Also it was revealed in current continuity that Bruce has trained himself with all weapons including guns,even if he never intends to use them!
Personally I think the fact he doesnt design his own gadgets makes perfect sense.
Batman has always been too perfect,being as good as he is at just about everything.
We have seen him train as a martial artist,we have seen him train as a gymnast,we have seen him train as a detective but there has never been an explanation as to how he became a genius regarding his inventions.
When the fuck did he find the time to learn all that shit?
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good point NWMan
He can afford R&D.
he doesn't have to be the worlds Greatest Inventor. Nor does Alfred.
Plus when would he find time to fight crime?
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A note, however: Bruce Wayne, in this film, has no problem using a gun.
Batman uses a gun in the movie?
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I just see the Batman legend as something built by Bruce Wayne himself, why did they have to make a regular Q out of Lucious when it's Bruce's journey? Reading the script, it's like a he's getting a helping hand throughout the movie, and that's exactly like Bond.
I always liked the Batman cartoon for showing Bruce getting his toys through Wayne Tech. I think that's better than him making them himself. Just makes more sense. Especially if he just got back from being in the middle of the mountains in the Orient for several years.
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Huh...this actually looks really good. Up until this trailer, I can't say that I was particularily excited about this one (Batman bores the shit out of me...and those last couple movies were horrible).
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Exactly!
In comics it has often been said that he was 8 years old when his parents were shot & killed,and started training to get into physical condition!
Then as a teen he went abroad to study with detectives & martial artists etc,then began his Bat career around the age of 22.
Are we to believe that he became a mechanical genius in his early teens,or maybe the ancient Tibetan monks also had a secret lab that they trained him in with some of the most fantastic technology ever seen?
Getting his stuff from Waynetech makes so much more sense.
Theres no reason why he cant be capable of tweaking and refining things,but theres absolutely no reason why he has to invent & build stuff from the ground up!
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You obviously know nothing of Bat history!
If you go back to the early issues,Bats used a gun & had a love interest so thats all part of Bat mythos.
Also it was revealed in current continuity that Bruce has trained himself with all weapons including guns,even if he never intends to use them!
That's wrong actually. That's Golden age. Not current continuity.
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Personally I think the fact he doesnt design his own gadgets makes perfect sense.
Batman has always been too perfect,being as good as he is at just about everything.
We have seen him train as a martial artist,we have seen him train as a gymnast,we have seen him train as a detective but there has never been an explanation as to how he became a genius regarding his inventions.
When the fuck did he find the time to learn all that shit?
If you read the first arcs of LotDK you'd know that Bats had to go through trial and error. He figured out what he needed after failed attmepts at stopping crime and went back to the drawing board designing new hook-lines, the cape, and, eventually, the car. I'm not saying that Bats has to be perfect, but that he should do this on his own, not have a third party present all this stuff to him and do his mission for him.
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Batman uses a gun in the movie?
Not consistently, it was just a few scenes. Although it was implied that he would have no problem using it when he was about to kill his parents murderer with it. My problem here pretty much is that he doesn't hate them.
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I always liked the Batman cartoon for showing Bruce getting his toys through Wayne Tech. I think that's better than him making them himself. Just makes more sense. Especially if he just got back from being in the middle of the mountains in the Orient for several years.
He got the materials from Wayne Tech, he made/designed them himself, and then eventually established an assembly line elsewhere. Either way though, I feel, the comicbook continuity is better suited for a Bat movie.
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I liked it better when pariah would troll the deep thoughts forum.
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We all miss him over there.
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That's wrong actually. That's Golden age. Not current continuity.
Thats right,and this is a movie so it can take from whatever source it wants!
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If you read the first arcs of LotDK you'd know that Bats had to go through trial and error. He figured out what he needed after failed attmepts at stopping crime and went back to the drawing board designing new hook-lines, the cape, and, eventually, the car. I'm not saying that Bats has to be perfect, but that he should do this on his own, not have a third party present all this stuff to him and do his mission for him.
So how exactly did he learn all this?
Thats what you are totally failing to notice!
Some of the best mechanics out there have been training for years but would not have the skills to build a car from the ground up!
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Thats right,and this is a movie so it can take from whatever source it wants!
You tried to reason with me using current continuity, plus we're getting all gargled here; first it's James Bond, then it's continuity. The inter-relation here is that he's not pulling his source so much from current or even past continuity so much as he is from sources that aren't actually Batman related.
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So how exactly did he learn all this?
Thats what you are totally failing to notice!
Some of the best mechanics out there have been training for years but would not have the skills to build a car from the ground up!
Batman, while not perfect, is supposedly an amazing individual driven enough to accomplish amazing things. I wouldn't find it out of the ballpark to suggest the finale for the movie be a newly made vehicle that he's been working on since his realization that he would need one. Even with the fact that expert mechanics have to hone experience, it doesn't seem like it wouldn't work--Furthermore, I'd find it realistic even moreso if he took the design from Waynetech, in which case I'm sure we'd have some agreement. But just getting the car immediately is rather cheap.
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He doesn't get it immediately; it starts off camouflage coloured, and he has to paint it black. So the initial design is from Waynetech, and Bruce refines and tweaks it.
So what's your problem?
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Yes, he does get it immediately. He gets it at the same time he gets all of his stuff. To say that the situation is different because the color isn't the same doesn't work. Like I said: There's no trial and error. It would be better if he doesn't figure out what he needs till he goes knee deep in crime.
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You tried to reason with me using current continuity, plus we're getting all gargled here; first it's James Bond, then it's continuity. The inter-relation here is that he's not pulling his source so much from current or even past continuity so much as he is from sources that aren't actually Batman related.
No I didnt!
I said if you go back to the early Batman!
I then said also in current continuity......
Please read peoples posts fully before coming up with your stupid answers!
And as for gargled........surely you mean garbled cause I sure dont remember swooshing this around in my mouth making a funny noise,you the one who has confused things!
You made reference to Bruce using a gun,& I said thats always been part of Bat mythos,both golden age & current age!
The James Bond reference you keep quoting is just that,a quote,nothing more!
Once you watch the film,you will probably wonder what the fuck all the James Bond talk was about!
If they borrow one idea from Bond (the Q type character) will that make the whole thing a James Bond copy?
Also,all superhero films use outside influences because its a movie,not a comic book,so some changes have to be made,and some changes happen because the film makers think they have to be made!
Not everyone who watches a superhero film reads comics.
Only the true anal retentive comic book fans get pissed off about petty shit.
It would be understandable if it was major stuff like the whole Catwoman movie,or the fact that Spiderman keeps showing everyone his secret identity (a very key part of his comics was that he never even showed other heroes who he was),but to get pissed off about Batman not inventing shit,is not key to the character,so would be a pretty piss poor reason to prejudge a film!
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Isn't year 2 in current continuity still?
He intends to use Joe Chill's gun on him in that as I remember.
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Let's face it, Pariah obviously can't tell that what goes in comics doesn't necessarily goes in movies. You've got to speed things up a bit. Having Bruce pretty much steal or duplicate the technology from Wayne Tech allows him to get into costume a lot earlier and move the plot forward. Be real for a second. You know everyone would bitch if he didn't don the batsuit until the last fifteen minutes of the movie. Besides, this movie seems to have gotten the essence of Batman without trying to stick to a continuity that most movie fans know jack squat about. I, honestly, can't wait to see it.
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No I didnt!
I said if you go back to the early Batman!
I then said also in current continuity......
Please read peoples posts fully before coming up with your stupid answers!
And as for gargled........surely you mean garbled cause I sure dont remember swooshing this around in my mouth making a funny noise,you the one who has confused things!
You made reference to Bruce using a gun,& I said thats always been part of Bat mythos,both golden age & current age!
The James Bond reference you keep quoting is just that,a quote,nothing more!
Once you watch the film,you will probably wonder what the fuck all the James Bond talk was about!
If they borrow one idea from Bond (the Q type character) will that make the whole thing a James Bond copy?
Also,all superhero films use outside influences because its a movie,not a comic book,so some changes have to be made,and some changes happen because the film makers think they have to be made!
Not everyone who watches a superhero film reads comics.
Only the true anal retentive comic book fans get pissed off about petty shit.
It would be understandable if it was major stuff like the whole Catwoman movie,or the fact that Spiderman keeps showing everyone his secret identity (a very key part of his comics was that he never even showed other heroes who he was),but to get pissed off about Batman not inventing shit,is not key to the character,so would be a pretty piss poor reason to prejudge a film!
I read the script Nowhereman, and I don't consider my predilections off base.
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Let's face it, Pariah obviously can't tell that what goes in comics doesn't necessarily goes in movies. You've got to speed things up a bit. Having Bruce pretty much steal or duplicate the technology from Wayne Tech allows him to get into costume a lot earlier and move the plot forward. Be real for a second. You know everyone would bitch if he didn't don the batsuit until the last fifteen minutes of the movie. Besides, this movie seems to have gotten the essence of Batman without trying to stick to a continuity that most movie fans know jack squat about. I, honestly, can't wait to see it.
Fine. But I disagree with the assumption that one can't fit continuity into a movie and make it understandable, I also disagree with the inflexibility within the timeframe to have Batman learn along the way. I think my more specific requirements are actually pretty reasonable. Moreover, I hope you'll agree that-that continutiy could very well be better than the actual content in the movie.
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Yes, he does get it immediately. He gets it at the same time he gets all of his stuff. To say that the situation is different because the color isn't the same doesn't work. Like I said: There's no trial and error. It would be better if he doesn't figure out what he needs till he goes knee deep in crime.
It IS trial and error. "This camouflage coloured batmobile just aint working for me... I wonder what else I could try... hurm... black might work, let's give this a go... OH MY GOD THIS BLACK CAR IS FREAKING AWESOME."
YOU'RE prejudging the movie because you hate Morgan Freeman.
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