Quote: Jim Jackson said: Some str8 people get divorced.
Some multiple times.
Some cheat and never get divorced.
Some cheat and get divorced.
Some cheat multiple times.
There's enough data out to the suggest that a significant number (you want 1/3, fine, we'll go with 1/3) do not view marriage as a sacred institution.
We really need to keep religion out of it. I know that offends some, but the black man getting to vote did, too.
A very small part of my argument has to do with religion. Again if society wants to change the deffinition then that's fine with me. Just as long as they do it through legislation. For me personally my ONLY beef is one of semantics so as a whole it matters little to me. What I was suggesting was that it may not be good for your position to focus on the negatives of heterosexual maraiges and come at it from a position of mutual respect. That's simply a tactical sugestion. I'm going to bow out from this debate because while have great respect for you and Klinton as people and I don't mind disagreeing politically, but I'm not really into fighting anymore. I believe that you and your partner if you choose to have one should be afforded every right that my wife and I are legally. I just don't view the two types of relationships as the same and I'm not comfortable with government deciding that without a vote from the people. If a vote comes up for civil unions I will go to the polls and vote for it. If a vote comes up to define the term marraige as being open ended I probobly just won't go to the polls (so that's like half a vote) Ronald Reagan said if someone agrees with you 70% of the time then they are not your enemy. I think i agree with you about 70% on this issue. i just want to see the diolouge focus on the positive aspects of each case rather than trying to tear each other down (you'll note that I haven't been on the gays are destroying socity side of this debate either) Yet even for my divergence from your side wich I think is a slight one. I'm called a bastard in the post directly following yours in response to my post defending the divorce statistics, so I'm pretty much done here for teh most part. It's my opinion that you get more flies with honey. But if you think that it's helpfull for those on your side to call those swing voters on the other side that they're bastards because they don't think exactly like you do then keep up the negative tone.
Putting the "fun" back in Fundamentalist Christian Dogma.
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