Quote: PenWing said: The way they used Joe Chill in this film shows exactly why there needs to be a Batman. Had there been a Batman, the DA would not have needed Joe Chill to deal to get Falcone. That was just one small little detail. Batman wants the criminals to stay in jail. He wants to eliminate the hypocrasy of the system. This lesson teaches Bruce that the system doesn't work, and that it needs help. So he becomes that help. But not right away. He has to learn how to help, and that's where he falls. He gets lost, until Ducard finds him. But his compassion is strong, and he will not kill without a trial. Just because Ra's says the man is guilty isn't enough for Bruce. It shows he still believes in the system. And that's when he realizes it needs outside help to succeed in Gotham.
And the script told me as much. However, you forget that I wasn't critiquing it's character evolution. I was going over how the original origin is much more realistic instead of a token love interest, merciful Falcone, and a clan of ninjas.
Quote: Animalman said: I didn't dislike what they did in Batman Begins, though. His knowing the killer put him into the position of nearly becoming a killer himself. An interesting an effective storytelling tactic, in my opinion.
Still, would you prefer the original to this one? I mean, we already would have known he would have killed him if he knew who he was anyway.
