RKMBs Forums .::Robegories::. Media Batman Begins -- there be spoilers in here!

Great movie. Good, but still not a Spider-man 2 beater in my eyes. X2 didnt even rank with me, entertaining and I like the X-men, but a fat old man as the main antagonist and a skinny little wimp as Magneto never did it for me


GOOD

Ra's Al Ghul switch. At first I was totally against a Ra's who is out on the front lines kicking ass himself, but it grew on me. I didnt guess because I saw footage of Bruce sword fighting with Ken Watanabe on some small indoor wooden bridge on the UK advert with the fast paced scenes

Dark Batman kicking ass and implying he is God

Scarecrow. The Crow didnt deserve a bigger part, it was perfectly played out and hopefully he'll appear in a similar role down in the line in a movie or 2's time

Batman using the Bat's to distract all the SWAT and Cops after him. This was aboslutely fuckin' awesome. Im not saying I want him to start wearing a helmet thats connects with Bats like Ant-Man, but more use of this where it can be conveyed well, like in movies and animation would gone down very well with me

Car. Did it actually turn invisible when the Copter was chasing it?

Lucius in on the secret

Batman not saving Ra's at the end. Bats risking his life to save people like Ra's and the Joker just isnt right. Saving lifes is one thing, but it borders on stupidity some times


BAD

Kaz was right about the action, it was really messed up. I was watching it late at night and thought I was falling asleep with all the blocked and awkward fight angles, like I was blinking for too long and missing the real action

Lousy last fight with Batman and Ra's

Ra's lousy motives of purpously trying to bribe cities then destroying them if they accepted. The implied involvement in the Wayne murders was un-needed and shabby aswell

Falcone as some second string loser. He's the only guy who's ever set up shop in Gotham as a real mob-boss instead of some psycho-fruitcake, right? if they were going for a real life approach, a mob boss employing psycho's and corrupt cops would have made a good movie, just so long as theres some Bat-psycho rivalry in there somewhere

No detective skills what-so-ever

Katie Holmes. Not particularly her acting, but her role seemed un-needed and useless. Would have preffered an actual love scene or nothing at all instead of the shit that happens at the end. Should have used Harvey Dent from the begginning and it would have made his demented turn that much more compelling and he would have had a much stronger connecting with Bruce/Batman. Harvey should have been his childhood friend and they should have played him out as both Bruce's friend and Batmans ally, like in TAS


Isnt Ra's name pronounced as RAY-SH instead of RAAZ? I've always gone with the latter and how they did it in the movie, but TAS was all about the RAY-SH



As per the origin. It didnt bug me, but Bruce being driven by a murder he could never solve is what the character is to me. Then again, this is Hollywood, and you know without them rapping it all up, critics and viewers would be on about it all the time complaining if they're not already familiar with the post crisis Batman origin