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Wonder Boy said:

1) Personally insulting those who disagree with you.
You disagree, okay, but it's easier to respect your views without the insults.


i'm always polite. stop being such a cunt.
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2) Accusing your opposition of "blindly" supporting Bush. Myself, G-man, WBAM and other conservatives here at RKMB, and in the public mainstream, have not been shy about opposing, Bush's Harriet Myers U.S.S.C. nomination, Bush's immigration amnesty proposal, Bush's social security plan, Bush's tax cuts, or even many aspects of the Iraq war.
So it's a smear tactic by yourself and other Democrats to label support of Bush as "blind".


you're being a cunt. i asked you to stop.

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3) As has been said repeatedly, Bush began the Iraq invasion in March 2003 with the same intelligence that every other nation in Europe and the Middle East had on Iraq's WMD's (and again, as Bush's speeches leading up to the war --available at www.whitehouse.gov -- make clear, WMD's were not the only reason to invade Iraq. WMD's were only key to the Senate vote allowing the President to legally go to war in Iraq).

So... every country in Europe and the Middle East, AND THE U.N., with the best intelligence available at the time, believed Saddam Hussein had WMD's.

And the David Kay report showed that Iraq was in "material breach" of a ban on WMD's in Iraq, that Saddam was ready to pursue a WMD program as soon as U.N. sanctions would have been lifted, and that U.S. invasion prevented a "nuclear arms bazaar" in Iraq, as the state was on the verge of collapse when the U.S. invaded.

And the arguments by liberals all purposefully circumnavigate these truths, to distort the seriousness of the pre-war Iraq situation.


i asked you to stop. being a cunt like this is never cool.

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Did Bush make mistakes? Sure he did.



if someone makes a mistake in their job and hundreds of thousands die, should that person not be held accountable for negligence?

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Should he jettison Secretary Rumsfeld and replace him with someone who will restore trust in the Iraq war operations?
I think so.


obviously. and several retired generals who served in Iraq feel the same way. but that won't happen (see: crony)

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Were there similar mistakes made in the WW II, Korean and Vietnam wars?
Faulty intelligence about the Fall of the Berlin Wall?
Non-existent advance intelligence regarding the collapse of Eastern Europe?
The collapse of the Soviet Union itself?
Aldritch Ames?
Taking Chalabi and other Iraq defectors at their word?

Absolutely.


see, there you go again. being a cunt.

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There are still heated debates about Hirosima, Nagasaki, Dresden, postwar German POW's, and a thousand other incidents. Even from our most honorable and "just" wars.


look, this whole being a cunt thing is getting tired. just stop.

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No matter how right and decisive the action, there will always be sour-grapes dissenters churning out bestsellers to say they saw and advised the true path to a better way, and that the decision made was wrong.


and there will always be people who look at obviously faulty choices and still support them rather than admit to being wrong.
oh, FYI. you have yet to stop being a cunt. work on it for me, won't you?

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Some right, some not.

But we still won these wars, without smearing our nation and our leaders, way beyond the limits of a civil dialogue (except in the case of the Vietnam War, where the dialogue got equally ugly).

Bush deserves criticism, yes. But let's stick to what's proven. And anything that's specualtion should be clearly labelled as speculation.
Alleging more than that is just partisan smear.




just try and work on not being a cunt this weekend. maybe just take it slow, then by monday you can come back and not be a cunt. okay?

Bow ties are coool.