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Pariah said:
Aaaaannnnd....What's your point?


That the Greeks got along fine on coming up with morality and ethics without your god.

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You actually tried to use this before...3 pages ago. It was idiotic then and it still is now.


3 pages ago was like 3 months ago. I'm not so into this argument that I'm going to reread every little bit of it from the past.

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Europe was ruled by an objectivist government--All governments were and are. The idea behind such a government philosophy is to secure the well being of the country, which that government runs, at all costs. In which case, to secure the citizens that made up the population of that country, Europe retaliated against Islam after they took Jerusalem. Because Christianity teaches to help those in need, the government protecting the proliteriate through an offense upon would be invaders is very much so analogous to Christian principle. However, Christianity itself, nor its principles, were the reason that Europe went to war. It was because they were attacked first.



you come off as a surly teenager who found a philosophy book and misinterpreted everything but still quote it to look smart.

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Where did I say they were atheists? I don't remember reading anywhere that the burning cross actually represented a holy crucifix on the part of KKK members.


The Klan is a fringe religious organization, and you know it.

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The overall fact here is that Christianity is not a prime motivation for the practitioners of the KKK and the philosophy of Christianity, moreover, does not encourage their behavior.


They are as much a representation of Christianity as Islamic terrorists are a representation of Islam as a whole.

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I'm sorry, but the Ten Commandments are very straight-forward, and they speak specifically against such actions as murder and harming other peoples' goods.


Thou shalt not kill doesn't cover executions but does cover abortions?
People still interpret it their own way.



The Jews borrowed heavily from the 2 empires that affected them in their early days: Egypt and Mesapotamia. The whole idea of monotheism was first promoted by Ahknaten who was Pharoh for part of the time jews spent in servitude. Hence you have Moses with his knickers in a knot over idols and one god. Old Yaweh himself was base on a God called Baal by the Mesapotamians. The point is Judaisim was not by any stretch the first religion or philosophy as you call it.

Some how I thought objectivism was a philosophy created in the 20th century by Ayn Rand, who at this very moment is giving Karl Marx a rim job in hell. It's vision of utopia involves free market capitalism with very little government, free love and social darwinism. That doesn't sound like the Roman Empire or the Middle Ages in Europe. And by the way, Pariah, I don't think objectivists are very big on the god thing either. It conflicts with being master of your own destiny.

"Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives." John Stuart Mill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. Oscar Wilde He who dies with the most toys is nonetheless dead.