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Since you don't want to answer a secular question with secular reasoning, we can do it your way.



Acctually I did give you a secular answer. I said religion for religions sake is useless. Only if there is substance to worship does it hold any value.

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magicjay38 said:
When you are Ill do you consult a Shaman, A Christian Science Pratitioner, some other faith based healer or a Medical Doctor (MD)?



I go to my doctor as well as ask my church for prayer. My doctor is a Christian so she also prays for me. On a side note. If the MD is so eernally wise why does she have to carry Mal Practice insurance?

The basis of your reasoning is flawed because you attempt to pit science against religion as though the two were in opposition to one another. That's just not true. One of the elders of my church is a scientist. Does that make him any less religious or does it make him any less a scientist?



I asked BSAMS a question. How is ANY reasoning revealed in that question? flawed or otherwise.

You seem to think I have no regard for the value of faith. That's not true. I value the spiritual above all else. But I have no need to impose my beliefs on others. The question posed in the topic of this thread is for me one of sociology, not faith. It falls into the realm of social science. The method differs little from the hard sciences, only the permissable deviations from the mean are greater.

Oh, here's another banana !

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