Quote: thedoctor said:Liefeld admitted to making Supreme to do the Superman stories he wanted to write. Moore took the character and turned the book into a metaphor for the comic book as a whole showing both the plus and minuses of each era of comic history. In other words, he made the book mean something other than being a standard RL rippoff.
The problem with the term "standard RL ripoff" is that Liefeld's rip off tend to only steal the visual aspects of the characters, like Troll being a traced Wolverine or the rock guy whose name I don't know from a team of characters I don't know being a visual rip off of the Thing.
The problem with Moore is that he rips off actual characters, personalities, backgrounds, and pretty much everything that makes a character what he is.
People seem to see the visual rip off as a bigger "crime" than what Moore does.
What Moore did, which I'm sure from some perspectives can be seen to be what you lay it out to be, is still a bigger rip off of Superman than what Liefeld did.
You, by your own admission, have not read the work Moore did on Supreme; therefore, you cannot credibly assert anything about said work. Your arguments are nil.
Liefeld's Supreme, which he only occasionally actually wrote, suffered from being inconsistent with the only static concepts being that he looked like Superman and had Superman's powers. Personality wise, no he wasn't Superman. He also wasn't stable with his characterisation changing from issue to issue. So, honestly, he wasn't even a character at all. He was a caricature. Moore was at least honest with his interpretation. He took the overall genericness of Supreme and spun it into something entertaining and insightful.
There's a fine line between ripoff and homage. It takes talent and skilled execution to know which is which. Moore has both. Liefeld doesn't.
Until you actually read Moore's Supreme work, I've said all I'm going to say to you on the subject. From now on I'm just going to make fun of any of your posts trying to argue against my points.
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet."
