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technically wouldn't the sudden shift in gravity, and the lack of energy from a sun, and a whole bunch of other science shit caused by Superboy chaining them all together and dragging them through the universe cause every living thing on those planets to die anyway?
More importantly...Superboy would not meet Lois until he was Superman which makes the whole logic of Superboy collecting anal beads for Lois a complete impossibility!
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I must say I don't take kindly to an entire era of comics coming under attack by someone who probably wasn't even alive at the time! Not all were good comics of course...but all comics today aren't all good either. Nostalgia has it's place Mota. Let go of the bitterness and you will be a happier person buttercup.
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More importantly...Superboy would not meet Lois until he was Superman which makes the whole logic of Superboy collecting anal beads for Lois a complete impossibility!
Unless, of course, Lana liked it the same, and Superman's constant confusion over which of the two to go for in his adult days were because these were the two women alive who both went for his Kryptonian Kink...
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There is also the chance that the anal beads were for that guy from Gotham who dresses in black leather...
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Nostalgia's one thing, constantly trying to revive something that died a long time ago because you can't let go of it is... morbid.
Moore, Waid, Morrison, Loeb and other "creators" working in comics are more interested in redoing what's already been done than coming up with original ideas.
That's not what a writer does, that's what a fanboy does.
Comics are like a Rorschach test; everyone has a different opinion on what they are and can be...
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I don't care what the quality of the storytelling might be
Taking that telling statement into consideration, and considering the rest of the post is basically:
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I haven't read the comic but I once had dinner with a person who took care of the dog of a guy who went to school with a dude with the same name as someone who read five pages
...I won't bother talking about this anymore. You're a lost case. Go harass comic celebrities or something. I hear Joe Quesada likes caped donkeys!
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Nostalgia's one thing, constantly trying to revive something that died a long time ago because you can't let go of it is... morbid.
Agreed, like those people who wish the Byrne era in Superman comics was back... Ok, ok, I'm done now!
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I've never met anyone who'd like for the Byrne era to be back.
Personally I want things to keep moving forward in comics, not backwards.
As for Supreme, thank you for proving me right when I said that you're incapable of accepting that Moore's version of Supreme is a rip off of the Silver Age Superman.
That's all you have to do yet it's very hard for you to accept.
Just in case you ever want to stop being a fanboy and develop an informed opinion, you can check the differences between Liefeld's Supreme and Moore's Supreme in the following pages.
I bet even then you'll be hard pressed to accept that Moore used Superman as his guidelines for Supreme while Liefeld's version was more original (in spite of being labeled a Superman copy by his creator).
Only a fanboy would think that physical apperance makes a character a copy of another one while the actual story and personality have no bearing on who a character is.
http://www.weirdspace.dk/Rob%20Liefeld/Ethan%20Crane%20version%202.htm
http://www.weirdspace.dk/Rob%20Liefeld/Ethan%20Crane%20version%201.htm
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You bitched when Byrne's version started being replaced. Before you derail this to talk about how much Loeb or Berganza suck blah blah blah, I'm NOT defending the version of Superman that replaced it, I'm questioning your blind fanboy attitude: I recall you said Byrne's origin should last forever (literally), because it's the best one.
I want you to quote the post where I said Moore's Supreme isn't a rip off. How can I expect you to read a comic before judging it if you can't even read the words "I DON'T FUCKING CARE IF ITS A RIP OFF"?
I judge comics by the quality of the story, you judge them by how tied to continuity they are and by whether there's a caped dog present... We have nothing to discuss.
I tried to click on that link to see what the huuuge difference is in personality and use between Lefield's Supreme and Superman, but it's not working. Maybe my anti virus detected Lefield ""art"" and disabled the website.
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...I won't bother talking about this anymore. You're a lost case. Go harass comic celebrities or something. I hear Joe Quesada likes caped donkeys!
So you say. But you know you're just going to get sucked into another convo.
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I never said it's the best one, I said it's the one of consequoence and that it's an honest version of the origin.
I also said that origins don't define characters forever, they only serve to introduce the concept and the people involved in it.
Byrne's version of Superman evolved into the Stern/Jurgends/Simonson/Kesel/Ordway version long before Loeb and the others came along, it just happens that the Loeb/Waid/Casey/Kelly version sucks because it's more interested in reproducing the Silver Age out of sick nostalgia than in A) moving things forward and B ) being honest with the concept.
Not that a fanboy like you would understand. To you the only thing that matters is how "good" the story is, regardless of whether or not it doesn't fit the concept or the characters in it.
If someone told a story in which it's revealed that Spider-Man comes from the planet of the alien spiders, as long as it's "good" you wouldn't mind, right?
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...I won't bother talking about this anymore. You're a lost case. Go harass comic celebrities or something. I hear Joe Quesada likes caped donkeys!
So you say. But you know you're just going to get sucked into another convo.
That's a given.
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I never said it's the best one, I said it's the one of consequoence and that it's an honest version of the origin.
I also said that origins don't define characters forever, they only serve to introduce the concept and the people involved in it.
Byrne's version of Superman evolved into the Stern/Jurgends/Simonson/Kesel/Ordway version long before Loeb and the others came along, it just happens that the Loeb/Waid/Casey/Kelly version sucks because it's more interested in reproducing the Silver Age out of sick nostalgia than in A) moving things forward and B ) being honest with the concept.
I can't be arsed to look up your posts, but they'd shock even you.
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Not that a fanboy like you would understand. To you the only thing that matters is how "good" the story is, regardless of whether or not it doesn't fit the concept or the characters in it.
If someone told a story in which it's revealed that Spider-Man comes from the planet of the alien spiders, as long as it's "good" you wouldn't mind, right?
I like how you say "good" between quotes. It's like when G-man says "democratically elected" or "freedom of speech". Filthy little details.
No, I wouldn't like it as long as it's "good", I'd like it as long as it's good. Good means it's not just "good", it's good by any standard. Any one that makes sense, that is.
The quality of the story is all I care about, period. I know it seems shocking to you, but it's shocking to me that anyone could care about details like DECADES OLD CONTINUITY or CAPED DOGS. Only in comics we get guys like these.
And you call me a fanboy...
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I've never met anyone who'd like for the Byrne era to be back.
I'd like the Byrne era to be back.
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Oh, my mistake. I thought good was subjective and each individual the world over had the choice to hate or dislike what someone else loves and enjoys (hence the quotes). I didn't know it was a standard that everyone has to agree on 
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I've never met anyone who'd like for the Byrne era to be back.
I'd like the Byrne era to be back.
Speaking of Byrne....Lying In The Gutter is reporting that Doom Patrol is officially cancelled.
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Amazing! Astonishing! Still can't get over the fantastic idea that when you are looking at a girl, you are looking at somebody who is guaranteed to have on her -- a cunt! They all have cunts! Right under their dresses! Cunts -- for fucking!
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I haven't read comics for some 40+ years because I'm looking for a perpetual Silver Age of comics. Of course I want comics to continue forward but Mota needs to develop some respect for Comic's different eras. The Golden Age begot the Silver Age which begot the Bronze Age which begot the Modern Age. There is good and bad in all and if you are especially attentive you'll find those gems of story-telling that stand up to the test of time and are good to read at any time!
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You forgot to make a joke about you molesting posters on this board or about Batman screwing Robin.  The Golden Age really is dead.
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I haven't read comics for some 40+ years because I'm looking for a perpetual Silver Age of comics. Of course I want comics to continue forward but Mota needs to develop some respect for Comic's different eras. The Golden Age begot the Silver Age which begot the Bronze Age which begot the Modern Age. There is good and bad in all and if you are especially attentive you'll find those gems of story-telling that stand up to the test of time and are good to read at any time!
I prefer to think of Geoff Johns' writing as the shiny tin age. It looks silver, but isn't worth shit in the long run.
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Jeph Loeb's comics are the Paris Hilton age: they suck.
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Jeph Loeb's comics are the Paris Hilton age: they suck.
Having recently seen the Paris Hilton video I have to assume that Mxy means they don't suck good at all!?! My oh my but she was the dead fuck, wasn't she? And what's w/ that dude going on about his big dick for so long in the beginning? Methinks he's a faggot...
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Oh, my mistake. I thought good was subjective and each individual the world over had the choice to hate or dislike what someone else loves and enjoys (hence the quotes).
I didn't know it was a standard that everyone has to agree on
This was MOTAs last post.
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We could always go to any other message board and ask him to come back.
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