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Apparently, Joaquin learned to play the guitar and like Jim Morrison in the Doors film, he's actually singing Johnny's songs. This is for me, personally, the most anticipated film of the year that doesn't star a comic book character.

The trailer is kinda large and may take a bit, but it's worth it.

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I've made no secret of the fact that, for me, Johnny Cash is the greatest singer of all time. I approached this trailer, and film, with trepidation for that reason.

I have to say that, based on the trailer, Phoenix knocked it out of the park. While not a note for note recreation of the Man in Black, Phoenix did a better job of capturing Cash than anyone I can think of.

I'm there.

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This looks good. I'll definitely be checking this one out.

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There's already an Oscar buzz hovering over Reese Witherspoon's turn as June Carter.


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I can't wait to see it...too bad my roommates probably don't even know who 'The Man in Black' is...or would get the title's reference...


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I've made no secret of the fact that, for me, Johnny Cash is the greatest singer of all time. I approached this trailer, and film, with trepidation for that reason.

I have to say that, based on the trailer, Phoenix knocked it out of the park. While not a note for note recreation of the Man in Black, Phoenix did a better job of capturing Cash than anyone I can think of.

I'm there.




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Johnny Cash's Daughter Storms Out of 'Walk the Line' Premiere

    Kathy Cash, one of Johnny Cash's five children, was so upset about how her mother is portrayed in the upcoming movie "Walk the Line" that she walked out of a family-only screening — five times.

    She thinks the movie, which opens nationwide Nov. 18, is good and that performances by Joaquin Phoenix as her dad and Reese Witherspoon as her stepmother, June Carter Cash, are Oscar-worthy.

    But she also said the film unfairly shows her mother, Vivian Liberto Distin, Johnny Cash's first wife, as a shrew. Actress Ginnifer Goodwin plays her in the movie.

    "My mom was basically a nonentity in the entire film except for the mad little psycho who hated his career. That's not true. She loved his career and was proud of him until he started taking drugs and stopped coming home," Kathy Cash said.

    Vivian Liberto Distin died earlier this year as a result of complications from lung cancer. She and Cash were married 13 years and had four children together. He pledged to remain faithful to her in his song "I Walk the Line."

    Kathy Cash also said the movie fails to include any meaningful scenes with the children or show the pain she and her three sisters endured during their father's fight with drugs and their parents' divorce. She says it portrays Johnny Cash's father too negatively.

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I'm sure Pariah will complain that it was Ras al Ghul who taught Johnny to play guitar in the movie.


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Saw it last night. It was okay, not great. Joaquin seemed to have moved in and out of character in some places. Plus, his use of Cash's natural quirks seemed rehearsed and over accentuated. It was cool that they got Waylon Jenning's son Shooter to portray his dad on film, but Kris Kristopherson once again gets screwed as there is no mention of him. In all honesty, Robert Patrick delivered the best performance in the whole movie as Cash's father. Hell, Grimm didn't recognize him until the movie was damn near over. Good movie and worth a watch, but catch it at a cheaper price at a matanee or second run theater or even just wait for the DVD.


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they definitely failed to get across the toll that the drug fueled escapades took on his family life. Though I think that's more of a failure of the script than the performances. (but Joaquin's Cash was very uneven) It's a flawed film. Good, but not great.

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Kris Kristopherson once again gets screwed as there is no mention of him.




I think (but I'm not sure) the movie ends at about the time Cash and Kristofferson first became friends. The originally met around 1965, but it wasn't until 1970, with "Sunday Morning Coming Down" that they became serious collaberators.

OTHOH, Cash and Jennings became friends in the early days, the period of time during which the movie is set.

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I think the film ends around '68 or so.

Jennings is only in one scene in the whole movie.

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Kris Kristopherson once again gets screwed as there is no mention of him.




I think (but I'm not sure) the movie ends at about the time Cash and Kristofferson first became friends. The originally met around 1965, but it wasn't until 1970, with "Sunday Morning Coming Down" that they became serious collaberators.

OTHOH, Cash and Jennings became friends in the early days, the period of time during which the movie is set.



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So is this flick a "see it as a matinee", a "wait for it on DVD", a "just rent it", or an "avoid"?


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i'd say "just rent it."

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I really enjoyed this movie. Didn't much care for too many of the "impersonators" (Elvis Presley, Jerry Lee Lewis, Buddy Holly - or was that supposed to be Roy Orbison?), but I thought Phoenix did a decent Cash and Reese Witherspoon was a fabulous June Carter. I must say that this is the first of her movies that I've actually enjoyed.

I'm not too up on the history of Cash, so I'm not sure how the movie did in that regard. While I agree that Phoenix did seem to go in and out of character, I liked some of the quirks and such that he brought to the role. Honestly, I couldn't see anyone else but him in that part anyway.

In some ways, I couldn't help but think that, had Ray not been so successful, this movie might not've been made... but I'm not 100% on that. Anyway, just some of my thoughts.

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I'm probably seeing it tonight. If so, I'll try and post my thoughts on it this weekend.

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Jennings is only in one scene in the whole movie.




Two, actually.

There's the post-divorce scene in which Waylon has his trademark long hair and is complaining about Johnny owing him money. There's also the earlier scene where Waylon was clean cut, sitting on the rehearsal stage with Johnny, Jerry Lee and a few others, getting drunk before the show.

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Anyway, here are my thoughts on the movie, with a little background.

As noted earlier in the thread, musically, I think there is no one who tops Johnny Cash. If you consider the test of an artist to be longevity (a nearly 50 year career), the consistency of his output during that time, and his influence on other artists, then arguably Cash is the greatest singer-songwriter of the 20th Century.

My own experience as a Cash fan began young. The first cassette my family owned, circa 1970, was a Johnny Cash collection. My father played that cassette every day before work for about four months.

But even before that, I was watching Johnny Cash in the late 60s, on his TV show. June Carter was his costar. Even at the age of four, I knew there was something cool about that tall man with deep voice, dressed in black, who would start his show by spinning around with a guitar and saying "Hello, I'm Johnny Cash."

So, in terms of being a picky fanboy, when it comes to Cash, I'm one. If this film had given me a reason to bitch and moan that they "ruined" Johnny Cash, I'd take it.

Fortunately, I don't have to. It's a very good film.

Admittedly, "Walk the Line" takes the basis "rock and roll biography" plot through the same paces as most other films of this type: struggling young singer with a dark family past and issues with his doubting parent or spouse finds fame, nearly loses fame due to drugs and alcohol and then either (depending on star being profiled) gets clean and has a comeback (Cash, Ray Charles) or ODs and becomes a legend (Elvis, Jim Morrison).

However, because Cash and Carter themselves approved the script and (I think) the cast before their deaths, and because both of them were not the type of people to sugarcoat their (admittedly often turbulent) lives, most the cliches have just enough of a twist from "real life" to make work.

For example: Cash's father, incredibly well played by Robert "T-1000" Patrick, seems like the standard cliched "angry critical distant father" for most of the film. However, just when you think that's the whole of the character, the father finally tells the drugged out, drunk, Cash something he needed to hear: just because he (the father) was a mean drunk when Cash was growing up, doesn't mean that Cash needs to be. "I was a dirt poor sharecropper without any talent and I quit drinking years ago" the father tells Cash. "You've got fame and talent. What's your excuse?" And that, along with June, helps open Cash's eyes to what a screwup he's become.

Most importantly, however, the film works because the cast is excellent. Along with Patrick, Phoenix and Witherspoon both turned in great, Oscar-worthy work.

Over the years, I'd see Cash on TV regularly. Even after his show was canceled, Cash and Carter made regular appearances on TV specials and musical variety shows. In terms of live shows, I was fortunate enough to see Cash twice. Once in the late 80s as part of the "Highwaymen" tour (Waylon, Willie, Kris Kristofferson and Cash) and again with June Carter and his regular band during what I think was probably his last tour in the mid to late 90s.

As such, I'm probably as familiar with Cash and Carter's mannerisms as any other member of the public. And both of them did great work capturing those mannerisms and making you care about the "stars" of the story.

Of the two leads, Witherspoon was the real revelation. You forgot you were looking at "famous actress Reese Witherspoon" and started believing you were watching a young June Carter, with all the charm and sass the woman had as late as the 1990s.

In fact, I defy any straight man to watch her in this movie and not wish she was YOUR girlfriend or wife. She's cute, she's funny, she even knows how to fish (better than Cash, in fact). And while she might flush your pills down the toilet and go after your drug dealer with a shotgun, she also knows that you don't mess with a man's career.

And she sang great. More traditional country than most of the tarted up Barbie dolls who populate the Nashville charts these days. I know its something of a cliche to say she deserves an Oscar, but I think she did.

Phoenix was also excellent. Unlike Witherspoon, there were a few times his performance seemed off, mostly in the scenes of a young Johnny Cash pre-Sun records. However, once he got to the scenes of Cash on stage, with his fellow pioneer rockers like Elvis, Roy Orbison and Jerry Lee Lewis, Phoenix was channeling full on dead to nuts Johnny Cash. I don't think anyone could have done a better job.

In fact, with the exception of the guy who played Elvis (albeit only in a few scenes), every actor in the movie did a good job, Along with Waylon's kid and Elvis, you had actors playing a lot of the early legends of rock and roll: Jerry Lee Lewis, Carl Perkins, Roy Orbison. They all did a good job playing legends who were, at the time, just a bunch of crazy kids playing what some fretted was "devil's music".

Can I recommend you go see it in a theater? Yes. If nothing else, it's a good date movie, but not a typical date movie. It has Reese Witherspoon and romance. But not in the way you usually seem them in "chick flicks." And it has the hard drinking, god fearing, rock and country mixing Man in Black, carrying himself with the kind of manly tragedy that you expect to see in a movie from Eastwood or Scorcese.

And it makes you want to run out and buy the "Live at Folsom Prison" concert album. Even if you already own it.

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good review.


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Two, actually.

There's the post-divorce scene in which Waylon has his trademark long hair and is complaining about Johnny owing him money. There's also the earlier scene where Waylon was clean cut, sitting on the rehearsal stage with Johnny, Jerry Lee and a few others, getting drunk before the show.




ahh. faded into the background.

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At this moment, CMT is running a special Johnny Cash: 60 Minutes Uncut

    A one-hour show featuring extensive interviews with Johnny Cash, including footage not seen on the original CBS telecast.

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Can I recommend you go see it in a theater? Yes. If nothing else, it's a good date movie, but not a typical date movie. It has Reese Witherspoon and romance. But not in the way you usually seem them in "chick flicks." And it has the hard drinking, god fearing, rock and country mixing Man in Black, carrying himself with the kind of manly tragedy that you expect to see in a movie from Eastwood or Scorcese.



I finally saw it yesterday. Very good film. Phoenix and Witherspoon really captured the feeling of the period entertainers, and I was surprised that they did their own singing, it was that good.


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    the season’s sleeper, James Mangold’s "Walk the Line," continues to field a steady following. Joaquin Phoenix and Reese Witherspoon present a compelling enough “traditional” love story of the saga of Johnny Cash and June Carter Cash that the terrific film did a respectable average half million bucks a day this week. It’s now at $85 million, and could cross the $90 million mark by Monday.

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Phoenix and Witherspoon both won Golden Globes tonight for their performances in the film. And the film itself one its catagory also. Oddly enough, however, they put the film in the "best comedy or musical" catagory.

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The characters sing songs - hence, musical.

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I'm having a tough time wrapping my head around the idea of Reese Witherspoon being nominated for any acting award, let alone actually winning one.


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Have you seen the movie? She's surprisingly good. It's the only movie I've seen her in that I actually enjoyed her performance in.

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Never saw that one. Want to, but haven't.

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Have you seen the movie? She's surprisingly good. It's the only movie I've seen her in that I actually enjoyed her performance in.




I haven't seen it, though I have heard very good things. The one concern I had is that it would be a little watered down and omit many of the less pleasant aspects of his life.

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That's true. She was annoying and completely unlikable, but that's what her character called for her to be. I knew soooo many chicks like her in high school.


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The characters sing songs - hence, musical.






I dunno. I just saw Walk the Line tonight and it definitely was very different from the Producers or Rent. In a musical, the story is told through the songs. In Walk the Line, songs just happened to be a part of the story.

Damn good movie, though. Reese Witherspoon deserves her award. Joaquin deserves awards as well.


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I dunno. I just saw Walk the Line tonight and it definitely was very different from the Producers or Rent. In a musical, the story is told through the songs. In Walk the Line, songs just happened to be a part of the story.




I think that's a pretty narrow definition of 'musical,' to be honest. In my mind, O Brother Where Art Thou? is a musical, albeit an unconventional one. So was Ray... and Walk the Line.

But, then... that's me.

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See I didn't think O Brother was a musical. I thought it was a movie with music in it. No need to lump it in a genre.


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Well... there is for the Golden Globes...

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Personally I think that's bad placement on their part, but they do as they please.


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I haven't seen it, though I have heard very good things. The one concern I had is that it would be a little watered down and omit many of the less pleasant aspects of his life.





My one complaint with the film would be that it lingers too long in the negative.


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The characters sing songs - hence, musical.




By that argument, Titanic was a musical because of the dance scene and the band playing "Nearer My God to Thee" as the ship went down.

By that argument, "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom" was a musical because of that nightclub show that Willie performed at the beginning of the film.

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