Quote: the G-man said: and other allegations at Gitmo, not over the Abu Garib incident.
This is not the first time you've mixed the two camps up.
You do realize that Gitmo is in Cuba and Abu Garib is in Iraq, don't you? And you do realize that Cuba and Iraq are two completely different countries, on two completely different continents (in fact, one is an island)? And that they are separated by an entire ocean and several other land masses, don't you?
Hey G-itmo Man There's a direct link between Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib! How timely this news is! Wow! Despite them being on 2 different continents and being seperated by an ocean!!!
Here's some news from today's papers G-. This is on page A14, it should have been on A1. From the Washington Post.
Quote: Military interrogators at the Abu Ghraib prison in Iraq learned about the use of military working dogs to intimidate detainees from a team of interrogators dispatched from the U.S. detention facility in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, according to court testimony yesterday.
One interrogation analyst also testified that sleep deprivation and forced nudity -- which were used in Cuba on high-value detainees -- later were approved tactics at Abu Ghraib. Another soldier said that interrogators would regularly pass instructions to have dog handlers and military police "scare up" detainees as part of interrogation plans, part of an approved approach that relied on exploiting the fear of dogs.
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The preliminary hearing at Fort Meade, Md., for two Army dog handlers accused of mistreating detainees provided more evidence that severe tactics approved for suspected terrorists at Guantanamo migrated to Iraq and spiraled into the notorious abuse at Abu Ghraib in the late summer and early fall of 2003. The testimony came days after an internal military investigation showed the similarity between techniques used on the suspected "20th hijacker" in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, and tactics seen in photographs at the prison that shocked the world.
Several Republican senators are pushing legislation -- opposed by the White House -- that would regulate the treatment of detainees at Guantanamo and other military prisons. One of them, Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), released recently declassified internal memos written in 2003 by the military's top lawyers in which they warned the Pentagon about developing severe tactics, arguing that they would heighten danger for U.S. troops caught by the enemy, among other problems.
"We have taken the legal and moral 'high-road' in the conduct of our military operations regardless of how others may operate," Air Force Maj. Gen. Jack L. Rives wrote in a Feb. 5, 2003, memo. "We need to consider the overall impact of approving extreme interrogation techniques as giving official approval and legal sanction to the application of interrogation techniques that U.S. forces have consistently been trained are unlawful."
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That staff sergeant, James Vincent Lucas, told Army investigators that he traveled from Cuba to Iraq from October to December 2003 as part of a six-person team to bring his "lessons learned" and to "provide guidelines" to interrogators at Abu Ghraib who were setting up their operation, according to investigative documents obtained by The Washington Post.
There is a lot more in the article - read it. It talks about how far up the chain of command this now is going on the Military Intelligence side - Colonel - as well civilian contractors deciding on who should be interrogated. So much for everyone involved being held accountable, you apologist for inhumanity and you enabler of child rape.
Am I being harsh? Well.. when all you can respond with is the same smarmy bullshit rationales, condescending insults, and excuses, you're helping to allow this to happen. And excuse me if raping little boys and women pisses me off.
As many of us long suspected, the order came from high up in the chain of command. Abu Ghraib began to torture only after General Miller visited Iraq from his post in Guantanamo.
But, so far, only the grunts at the bottom of the military chain have suffered prosecution, prison time, ruined careers.
Feel free to obfuscate and present more right wing talking points. You're still helping to stand in the way of investigating if little boys and women are still being raped not to mention, held, as we speak.
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