RKMBs Forums .::Robegories::. Media Sean Penn's rescue bid sinks

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r3x29yz4a said:

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Pig Iron said:
Dude, are you fucking insane Doc had to haul ass out of Mississippi. No power, no phone, etc. He went to the relative comfort of atlanta and came back to shit on a shingle. What is he supposed to do, the guy probably can't even use an ATM, he isn't working probably, and he probably has lended a hand to neighbors. know what the fuck you are talking about idiot.

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honestly, so what? how does that relate to the conversation? does his presence in the south automatically give him the right to insult strangers who try to help?
people use tragedies as if it gives them some moral high ground?
if he was actually at the location where Sean Penn was, then maybe I could understand the bashing. And, he seems to be online now. Not one of the people starving and looting to survive.

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What the fuck have you done r3x??? huh, except bitch about the president..man, just fuck off.because bitching about the president is constructive. he has a few more years of lame duckness left and he'll be gone..Great for you so go to the DNC and donate your time so you get a democrat in next time. Because when the next hurricane class 5 strikes the same shit will happen. people will lose their homes and people will die. dammnit. What the fuck have you done? Man, when you read an article or an internet blog or whatever decipher it a bit and use your fucking sense to see..hmm, is it liberal? conservative? what points are they focusing on, etc. be an intelligent reader and fucking judge for yourself..don't just tow the line..you are nearly as bad as G-Man, but atleast he sometimes uses his compassion and common sense..even though he is a staunchie....

dumbass

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A. Fuck you.
B. Where did I post how great a person I was? Where did I post how terrible another civilian was for trying to help out?
I'm not towing any line, I just happen to disagree with most of the posters here who seem to love to insult any liberal at any time for any action.

it's more than appropriate to crtique and condemn the president for sitting on his ass while people died (of course he's been doing that for years, so why should it bother you guys now?)

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Pig Iron said:

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r3x29yz4a said:

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Pig Iron said:
Dude, are you fucking insane Doc had to haul ass out of Mississippi. No power, no phone, etc. He went to the relative comfort of atlanta and came back to shit on a shingle. What is he supposed to do, the guy probably can't even use an ATM, he isn't working probably, and he probably has lended a hand to neighbors. know what the fuck you are talking about idiot.

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honestly, so what? how does that relate to the conversation? does his presence in the south automatically give him the right to insult strangers who try to help?
people use tragedies as if it gives them some moral high ground?
if he was actually at the location where Sean Penn was, then maybe I could understand the bashing. And, he seems to be online now. Not one of the people starving and looting to survive.

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What the fuck have you done r3x??? huh, except bitch about the president..man, just fuck off.because bitching about the president is constructive. he has a few more years of lame duckness left and he'll be gone..Great for you so go to the DNC and donate your time so you get a democrat in next time. Because when the next hurricane class 5 strikes the same shit will happen. people will lose their homes and people will die. dammnit. What the fuck have you done? Man, when you read an article or an internet blog or whatever decipher it a bit and use your fucking sense to see..hmm, is it liberal? conservative? what points are they focusing on, etc. be an intelligent reader and fucking judge for yourself..don't just tow the line..you are nearly as bad as G-Man, but atleast he sometimes uses his compassion and common sense..even though he is a staunchie....

dumbass

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A. Fuck you.
B. Where did I post how great a person I was? Where did I post how terrible another civilian was for trying to help out?
I'm not towing any line, I just happen to disagree with most of the posters here who seem to love to insult any liberal at any time for any action.

it's more than appropriate to crtique and condemn the president for sitting on his ass while people died (of course he's been doing that for years, so why should it bother you guys now?)

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First , you belittled others...who for the sake of arguement are dealing with the shit you banter about daily with no firsthand knowledge. If you wanted to know about bears would you ak a park ranger or a fucking new york times columnist??

second, don't fucking insult another person for not doing anything, when A you haven't asked them and B you haven't done jack shit yourself. I think sean penn was trying to help ( read my posts, asshole) I think he was just severely misguided. And yes you are towing a line or you would have something more original to say except the same bullshit I've heard for days from the same fucking people who don't know shit (that you pointed out ie newscasters) that report uncnfirmed stories..ie shooting at army choppers and escaped prisoners that just today got proved false, and unfounded. Reasearch some shit before you point fingers or act like you know what the fuck you are talking about.

Real fuckin research not GOOGLE or ask, jeeves.

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r3x29yz4a said:

And you know for a fact that the majority of posters here wouldn't have said a word if this was some right wing country music singer.

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Bottom line:
Sean Penn went out of his way to do something, anything.
The President of the United States and FEMA responded slowly to their actual jobs.

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PJP said:

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britneyspearsatemyshorts said:
r3x doesnt care about situations outside his community clearly

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r3x29yz4a said:
what have you done that's so great that you can condemn a person who went out of their way to go there and help?

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r3x29yz4a said:
he did more than he was obligated to, and even if he only helped one person then it was a good thing to do.
I didn't realize helping people was some contest based on planes being 7 points whereas boats are only worth 2.

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thedoctor said:
No, Penn isn't under any obligation to help people; but if he takes up the task on his own, he then does gain responsibility for doing it properly. Filling up a boat load of people that you're supposed to put more people into is fucking retarded. I don't care who you are. Seems like all he was capable of doing was hindering people who really were rescueing survivors by putting himself and his group in a situation where they could wind up needing rescue.

John Travolta did it the right way. He used his money, his plane, and his flying skill to bring needed supplies and helped to improve the morale of rescue workers for even just a moment.

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Shaq: Katrina help is 'the right thing to do'
By TIM REYNOLDS, AP Sports Writer
September 10, 2005

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MIAMI (AP) -- Sweat dripping from his head as he worked in the midday South Florida sun, Shaquille O'Neal loaded the last item into a cavernous 18-wheel trailer and pointed to the generous stranger.

``Give the man a hug,'' he urged his children, who quickly obliged. ``Tell him thank you.''

For the last week, O'Neal and his wife have coordinated efforts to help those in Louisiana and Mississippi whose lives were ripped apart by Hurricane Katrina. And Saturday, O'Neal was on the front line, personally accepting medical items, toiletries, clothes and other items from those inclined to help.

The tractor-trailers hired by the O'Neal family are expected to begin rolling Tuesday toward Baton Rouge, La. -- where O'Neal, the Miami Heat center, attended LSU.

``I commend everybody who's helping out in some way,'' O'Neal said. ``Whether it's monetarily or going to the stores and buying cases of water, bundles of ice ... there's a lot of people chipping in, and my hat goes off to every American and non-American that's helping.''

O'Neal spent two days in Louisiana shortly after the storm struck, returning home deeply moved by what he saw. And donating money, he said, simply wouldn't be enough.

So for several days, he and his wife Shaunie have teamed with the El Dorado furniture stores in South Florida and urged people to give whatever was possible. The response, Shaunie O'Neal said, has been overwhelming.

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A warehouse commandeered to store the donations is nearly filled to capacity. There's 10,000 gallons of water, piles of diapers, peroxide, personal items and clothing, plus even some donations of refrigerators and beds -- which will be used to help furnish 400 apartments the O'Neal's plan to rent for refugees in Dallas and other areas.

``The refrigerators and beds weren't expected,'' Shaunie O'Neal said. ``But they definitely can be used. They'll definitely come in handy.''

The O'Neal's are unclear what will exactly happen once the trucks leave South Florida. They're finding that the process of distributing items throughout the ravaged region is perhaps the most difficult part of the plan.

Shaunie O'Neal said she's been told that the trucks, when they arrive in Louisiana, will be emptied for inspection and the items will be sent to various locations -- depending on what is needed where, and logistics in place for the distribution. She fears it could be a lengthy process.

``It's just frustrating,'' Shaunie O'Neal said. ``All you're trying to do is help and get help to people in need and you see these people on TV just begging for help and whoever, I'm not going to point any fingers, but ... it's very, very, very difficult.''

While the 12-time All-Star was manning the dropoff location, Edesio Biffoni, a Swiss man who works in finance and now lives in the Miami suburb of Coconut Grove, came with his sports-utility vehicle loaded with car seats, baby strollers, clothing, toys and other items.

Other citizens -- all unknowing they were about to meet O'Neal -- brought cases of soap and deodorant, plus toothbrushes, toothpaste, baby wipes and numerous other items.

``Everybody should be helping out. ... There's people who need these things more now,'' Biffoni said, moments after O'Neal gave the man a firm handshake and whispered appreciative words.

O'Neal said the damage he saw during his visit to Louisiana was unimaginable. So he returned home ``to devise a plan,'' he said, and urged his friends and corporations he works with to provide immediate help.

``I'm just doing what I've been taught by my parents to do,'' O'Neal said. ``This is the right thing to do, and I'm trying to urge other people to do it.''

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r3x29yz4a said:
I swear this place can be like the messageboards for Fox news sometimes, where anyone liberal is a devil to you people for either doing the wrong thing or not doing enough.

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Penn said Bush and the war in Iraq have made it hard for him to give up his addiction to cigarettes. 'It makes it very difficult to quit smoking under this administration,' he said.

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the G-man said:
The Sacramento Bee reports on an appearance by actor Sean Penn at a rally for Cindy Sheehan:

Penn said Bush and the war in Iraq have made it hard for him to give up his addiction to cigarettes. 'It makes it very difficult to quit smoking under this administration,' he said.

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r3x29yz4a said:

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the G-man said:
The Sacramento Bee reports on an appearance by actor Sean Penn at a rally for Cindy Sheehan:

Penn said Bush and the war in Iraq have made it hard for him to give up his addiction to cigarettes. 'It makes it very difficult to quit smoking under this administration,' he said.

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So if he had said stress at his job or in his personal life made it hard to quit smoking, then you would have no problem.

However, since he invests his time in politics and feels stress by the pressure of people (like you) who insult his every move and word coupled with his genuine concern over Bush's actions, then I say he made a perfectly valid statement.

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thedoctor said:
Ray is still hoping that Penn will take him on the next boat ride. Turns out, there wasn't any room left for him on the first.

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