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I think he's anti-everything.


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very holier than tho wouldnt you say?

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Now that you mention it, I know all kinds of things he's against but very little about what he's for.

Just for the record, I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-Pariah.


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Christianity the belief I don't give a shit about.
Christianity the organized religion and all of it's branches that have caused wars and death and ignorance all in the name of morality I'm very against.
Same with Islam.

It's not belief that I dislike, but the organizing of believers into a little army of preachers.


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Christianity the belief I don't give a shit about.
Christianity the organized religion and all of it's branches that have caused wars and death and ignorance all in the name of morality I'm very against.
Same with Islam.

It's not belief that I dislike, but the organizing of believers into a little army of preachers.




Like I said, we know what you don't believe. What do you believe? Are you Athiest or Agnostic? Do you belive in Buddha or Hinduism. Maybe Shinto? Do you have any spiritual path at all?


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Christianity the belief I don't give a shit about.
Christianity the organized religion and all of it's branches that have caused wars and death and ignorance all in the name of morality I'm very against.
Same with Islam.

It's not belief that I dislike, but the organizing of believers into a little army of preachers.




Like I said, we know what you don't believe. What do you believe? Are you Athiest or Agnostic? Do you belive in Buddha or Hinduism. Maybe Shinto? Do you have any spiritual path at all?



see the anti-democratic question thread.
I shouldn't have to defend my own beliefs just because I criticize an organized religion's.


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Christianity the belief I don't give a shit about.
Christianity the organized religion and all of it's branches that have caused wars and death and ignorance all in the name of morality I'm very against.
Same with Islam.

It's not belief that I dislike, but the organizing of believers into a little army of preachers.




Like I said, we know what you don't believe. What do you believe? Are you Athiest or Agnostic? Do you belive in Buddha or Hinduism. Maybe Shinto? Do you have any spiritual path at all?



see the anti-democratic question thread.
I shouldn't have to defend my own beliefs just because I criticize an organized religion's.




I didn't ask you to defend them. Just what they are. Is that so difficult?


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Christianity the belief I don't give a shit about.
Christianity the organized religion and all of it's branches that have caused wars and death and ignorance all in the name of morality I'm very against.
Same with Islam.

It's not belief that I dislike, but the organizing of believers into a little army of preachers.




Like I said, we know what you don't believe. What do you believe? Are you Athiest or Agnostic? Do you belive in Buddha or Hinduism. Maybe Shinto? Do you have any spiritual path at all?



see the anti-democratic question thread.
I shouldn't have to defend my own beliefs just because I criticize an organized religion's.




I didn't ask you to defend them. Just what they are. Is that so difficult?



no, put i just typed the response on the thread less than a half hour ago. redundant posts both me because typing the same thing over and over is so redundant.


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Christianity the belief I don't give a shit about.
Christianity the organized religion and all of it's branches that have caused wars and death and ignorance all in the name of morality I'm very against.
Same with Islam.

It's not belief that I dislike, but the organizing of believers into a little army of preachers.




Like I said, we know what you don't believe. What do you believe? Are you Athiest or Agnostic? Do you belive in Buddha or Hinduism. Maybe Shinto? Do you have any spiritual path at all?



see the anti-democratic question thread.
I shouldn't have to defend my own beliefs just because I criticize an organized religion's.




I didn't ask you to defend them. Just what they are. Is that so difficult?



no, put i just typed the response on the thread less than a half hour ago. redundant posts both me because typing the same thing over and over is so redundant.




So, rather than type 'Agnostic' once you typed redundant twice along with explanations?

Pretty fuckin' efficient, Ray


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Christianity the belief I don't give a shit about.
Christianity the organized religion and all of it's branches that have caused wars and death and ignorance all in the name of morality I'm very against.
Same with Islam.

It's not belief that I dislike, but the organizing of believers into a little army of preachers.




Like I said, we know what you don't believe. What do you believe? Are you Athiest or Agnostic? Do you belive in Buddha or Hinduism. Maybe Shinto? Do you have any spiritual path at all?



see the anti-democratic question thread.
I shouldn't have to defend my own beliefs just because I criticize an organized religion's.




I didn't ask you to defend them. Just what they are. Is that so difficult?



no, put i just typed the response on the thread less than a half hour ago. redundant posts both me because typing the same thing over and over is so redundant.




So, rather than type 'Agnostic' once you typed redundant twice along with explanations?

Pretty fuckin' efficient, Ray



i just typed the response on the thread less than a half hour ago. redundant posts both me because typing the same thing over and over is so redundant.


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Christianity the belief I don't give a shit about.
Christianity the organized religion and all of it's branches that have caused wars and death and ignorance all in the name of morality I'm very against.
Same with Islam.

It's not belief that I dislike, but the organizing of believers into a little army of preachers.




Like I said, we know what you don't believe. What do you believe? Are you Athiest or Agnostic? Do you belive in Buddha or Hinduism. Maybe Shinto? Do you have any spiritual path at all?



see the anti-democratic question thread.
I shouldn't have to defend my own beliefs just because I criticize an organized religion's.




I didn't ask you to defend them. Just what they are. Is that so difficult?



no, put i just typed the response on the thread less than a half hour ago. redundant posts both me because typing the same thing over and over is so redundant.




So, rather than type 'Agnostic' once you typed redundant twice along with explanations?

Pretty fuckin' efficient, Ray



i just typed the response on the thread less than a half hour ago. redundant posts both me because typing the same thing over and over is so redundant.




I'm calling 911. You're drunk posting! Which shopping cart should I tell the cops to look for?


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Now that you mention it, I know all kinds of things he's against but very little about what he's for.

Just for the record, I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-Pariah.




That's not a valid position. If it were, there'd pretty much be no one to oppose it.

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Christianity the belief I don't give a shit about.
Christianity the organized religion and all of it's branches that have caused wars and death and ignorance all in the name of morality I'm very against.
Same with Islam.

It's not belief that I dislike, but the organizing of believers into a little army of preachers.




All it's branches? Try hating something you acctually know about for a change? Just out of curriosity do you hate secularism which has been responsible for the slaughter of more people in the 20th century than any other belief system?


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Christianity the belief I don't give a shit about.
Christianity the organized religion and all of it's branches that have caused wars and death and ignorance all in the name of morality I'm very against.
Same with Islam.

It's not belief that I dislike, but the organizing of believers into a little army of preachers.




All it's branches? Try hating something you acctually know about for a change? Just out of curriosity do you hate secularism which has been responsible for the slaughter of more people in the 20th century than any other belief system?




The Holocaust, Abortion clinic bombings, Terrorism (Islamic), Terrorism (Irish), the Iraq War are all based around religion and idealogy.

Secularism means non-religious. It's not a school of a certain particular thought. That's like saying the bank robber doesn't wear hats, so anyone else who doesn't wear hats must be bank robbers as well.


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I think WBAM is referring to Stalin and Pol Pot.

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Pol? Hitler killed the Poles, and he was on pot at the time he probably would've been more mellow about his speeches.


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Christianity the belief I don't give a shit about.
Christianity the organized religion and all of it's branches that have caused wars and death and ignorance all in the name of morality I'm very against.
Same with Islam.

It's not belief that I dislike, but the organizing of believers into a little army of preachers.




All it's branches? Try hating something you acctually know about for a change? Just out of curriosity do you hate secularism which has been responsible for the slaughter of more people in the 20th century than any other belief system?




The Holocaust, Abortion clinic bombings, Terrorism (Islamic), Terrorism (Irish), the Iraq War are all based around religion and idealogy.






OK, good examples, but a couple are slightly off. The holocost for example was not religious. For some twisted reason the left likes to say that Hitler was an evangelical Christian, but that's bull shit, he rounded up the priests and attributed his philosphies to Nietchi, not that this is the first time you ignore facts to make a point.

The Iraq war is religious? This I've GOT to hear!

While cloaked in the terms of Catholic vs. Protestant, anyone familiar w/ the Northern Irish conflic will tell you it's one of nationalism not religion.

So that leaves Islamo Facism wich I'll grant you and abortion clinic bombings wich I demonstrated before that at least that the most publicised case was by a secularist, but I'll still grant you this one on principle if you can get me the numbers as to how many people have been killed in Abortion clinic bombings in teh 20th century (we'll ignore how many people have had thier brains sucked out in the same cinics for now).

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Secularism means non-religious. It's not a school of a certain particular thought.




Yes, acctually it is.

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That's like saying the bank robber doesn't wear hats, so anyone else who doesn't wear hats must be bank robbers as well.




No acctually it isn't, but I've tried to explain the laws of logic to you before and failed so I won't bother. If you're truly interested you can google them.


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I think WBAM is referring to Stalin and Pol Pot.




Because these facts dirctly and effectively dispute what he's saying r3x will most likely ignore them and make a joke further demonstrating that he truly has no idea what he's talking about.


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Pol? Hitler killed the Poles, and he was on pot at the time he probably would've been more mellow about his speeches.




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I think WBAM is referring to Stalin and Pol Pot.




Because these facts dirctly and effectively dispute what he's saying r3x will most likely ignore them and make a joke further demonstrating that he truly has no idea what he's talking about.



no, you're an idiot. you assume "secularism" is some group or organization.
just because there were people who rejected god and caused death, doesn't negate the fact that more deaths are caused due to organized religion.


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Just because people assumed to be adherents of a particular religion were guilty of committing atrocities doesn't mean the atrocities were the result of the religion itself.

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Just because people assumed to be adherents of a particular religion were guilty of committing atrocities doesn't mean the atrocities were the result of the religion itself.



well, i'll grant you that unstable people will always find some escuse. but too many times the religion fuels these people. and folks like jerry fallwell and pat robertson and the fanatic muslims add a match to that fuel.

do you think that abortion bombings and gay murdering, and the KKK and 9/11 would've happened if some religious leader on either side were preaching about great evils?


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don't get me wrong. i don't think all religious people are psychos ready to snap and kill everyone (pariah maybe), i just think organized religion causes more problems then it solves.


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I think WBAM is referring to Stalin and Pol Pot.




Because these facts dirctly and effectively dispute what he's saying r3x will most likely ignore them and make a joke further demonstrating that he truly has no idea what he's talking about.



no, you're an idiot. you assume "secularism" is some group or organization.
just because there were people who rejected god and caused death, doesn't negate the fact that more deaths are caused due to organized religion.




No acctually Secularism IS an orginised philosophy. Just as is religion. Just like religion it takes on many forms. Maxism for example is and orginised philosophy of secularism and so is Stalinism. Perhaps your brand of secularism is far different than thiers. Just as my brand of religion is far different than radical islam or the teachings of Robertson or Falwell. You seem utterly unwilling to discuss the issues you bring up. You just want to call those who dissagree with you idiots because they see things differently. That leads me to assume that your constant posting of "quesions about Christianity' have alot more to do with personal issues you have either with Christians or struggles with your own beliefs rather than a sincere desire to discuss varying philosophies.


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i just think organized religion causes more problems then it solves.




I think that's a perfectly valid world view. I think where you run into trouble, however, is that you tend to try and make that point in a jeering, mocking, and, sometimes, completely ridiculous, way to the very people here who practice that religion. At the same time, phrasing your posts or threads in a way that makes it at least appear that, of all the world's major religions, Christianity is the one you have chose to single out.

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That's the same impression I get, whether it's intentional or not.

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I honestly believe r3x has some issues with Christions. Bordering on bigotry. I'm assuming these are coupled with an insecurity about his own belief structure.


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I honestly believe r3x has some issues with Christions. Bordering on bigotry. I'm assuming these are coupled with an insecurity about his own belief structure.



It's not bigotry if you question and dislike an organization's teaching and members.
do you call someone a bigot for disliking a political party?
and not liking the actions of someone doesn't mean i'm insecure in my own beliefs. If that's the criteria then you must be insecure for saying I'm insecure.

And, I just have to say. As a good christian, you should be able to spell the word christian.


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Enough with the spelling already! The reason he wants you to buy a monkey is because there are already too many on his typewriters. If you'd just buy one of the little fuckers I bet the spelling would clear right up!

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Enough with the spelling already! The reason he wants you to buy a monkey is because there are already too many on his typewriters. If you'd just buy one of the little fuckers I bet the spelling would clear right up!




It's true


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I honestly believe r3x has some issues with Christions. Bordering on bigotry. I'm assuming these are coupled with an insecurity about his own belief structure.



It's not bigotry if you question and dislike an organization's teaching




You're right that isn't biggotry...

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That, however is. I can disslike the teachings of Judeism and not be a bigot, but if I say I don't like jews then I would be considered a bigot. Trust me what I just said may not make sense to you, but it makes sense to everyone else.

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and not liking the actions of someone doesn't mean i'm insecure in my own beliefs.




No, it doesn't. However constantly obsessing with the belifs of one specific group to the point where you're willing to ignore basic facts just to try and melign them doesn't make you look to secure.

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If that's the criteria then you must be insecure for saying I'm insecure.

And, I just have to say. As a good christian, you should be able to spell the word christian.





Just further demonstrating that you know nothing about what Christians acctually believe. My salvation is secure regardless of how I spell my religion past midnight.


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Can it really be called bigotry when you are standing in opposition to a group that is known for judging and condemning others? I mean, if you stood here and mocked the KKK, that would be widely accepted. But the church is no different, really. Their teachings have sparked human intollerance on many occasions...and the more fanatical ones have taken actions similar to the KKK murders (mob action beatings, harrasment and even murder).

Bigotry is when an organization feels it is within thier power to determine the fates of people who have no desire to associate with that organization.


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My salvation is secure regardless of how I spell my religion past midnight.




Seems a rather arrogant thing to say...


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Seems a rather arrogant thing to say...




Why is it arrogant? He is allowed to practice and view his religion as he sees fit. Hell, he is even allowed to look at us through it's standards.

So long as he doesn't expect any of this to mean shit all to anyone else, it's perfectly ok.


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