Quote: the G-man said: I think the basis for the threatened veto may be the use of the word "degrading." That's a pretty broad term and one could easily argue many things that are commonly accepted as humane treatment of prisoners are, however, "degrading" to them.
In fact, if you outlaw "degrading" treatment of prisoners, I guarantee that the ACLU or some other group will argue that orange jumpsuits, regimented meals, sparse cells and other typical and necessary conditions of imprisonment are "degrading" to people who crave individuality in their ordinary lives.
Quote: First Amongst Daves said: Do you know that for a fact, or is that speculation?
You'll note I said "I THINK the basis... MAY BE..."
