Quote: i guess you have firsthand experience with being tortured and trained as a soldier to offer a valid disagreement? or did you just watch 24 last season?
Nope, but if you want to say that McCain is right about matters of war due to his experience as a soldier then you must agree with him that we were correct to go into Iraq in the first place. While I do have a friend who has infact undergone torture training (traing to whithstand torture not administer) I have not acctually had the first hand experience. Usually when someone uses the personal experience argument they are attemting to dodge the acctual argument, but I don;t want to jump to that conclusion to see if you adrees the meat of what I said later on...
Quote: he's a republican. going against the president who is a member of your own party is risky, bad politics in fact, especially on such a divisive issue.
hmm, I made to points one major regarding effectiveness of torture and one minor about the fact that McCain was a politition you seem to have only adressed the latter. Well in hopes that the real issue is discussed later in your post allow me to quickly adres the issue of McCain making political decisions... Have you ever watched the news when McCain is in it? Yes he's a Republican, but his bread and butter is to be a maveric Republican.
Quote: there are clear lines on these matters. what people like you are attempting to do is blur the lines and the laws that have existed on this for years.
Sadly the post is over and you completely avoided the issue of the effectiveness of torture. Well, i guess we'll have to move on. So please tell me what re the "clear lines on these matters" that you're refering to? I'm not trying to blur any lines at all. What "people like me" are doing is trying to .... Never mind, I don't even know why I bother.
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