RKMBs Forums .::Robegories::. Games and Tech MisterJLA meets...the Xbox 360!

Good grief!

I went to Best Buy today to look around, and I noticed a crowd standing around a display toward the Xbox games. It turned out to be a playable demo of the 360, along with Call to Duty 2.

Wow. Just... wow. The graphics were unreal. Very, very sharp and detailed. The display used a flat screen monitor, so that may have helped the presentation, but even on a regular monitor the game would have still looked amazing. I didn't notice any load times at all or any type of lag. I never saw such sharp visuals on a game before.

I played the game for a while, and really enjoyed it. I usually have trouble with first person shooters on consoles (except for the Tom Clancy games, and Mercenaries...I can aim perfectly with those) but I did well with this game. I was using a rifle with a scope, which made sniping fun and easy to get into. I would have done better with a mouse and keyboard, and I hope to FUCK Microsoft manufactures a mouse and keyboard for the shooters games that will be on the 360. Dreamcast, PS2, regular Xbox, none of those systems supported a mouse, and I could never understand why. Pisses me off.

There's one bad side to the 360 looking this sharp at launch...it makes everything else that came before it to look weak. After playing Call to Duty 2 on the 360, I tried Medal of Honor: European Assault for the regular Xbox. It too, was on a nice, flat screen monitor, but it looked nowhere near as good as Call to Duty. Then I looked at the new Gamecube version of the new Hulk game...it looked like a N64 game compared to what the 360 was offering. I don't know: maybe the 360 game was being showed off on an incredibly high priced monitor, and the others were not, but I don't think there could have been that big a difference in screens.

So, that's my story. Thanks.

Who was it here that saw one at Wal-Mart? I was at Wal-Mart yesterday and didn't even go in the electronics section to look. But it looks like I'll have to check Best Buy tomorrow. I'm on a quest to find a demo 360 now.

I don't care how advanced the new stuff gets. Nothing's gonna keep me from enjoying my oldies (current stuff).

Some threads about the game here:

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/gentopic.php?board=927725

puh you computer nerds and your "i must have a keyboard and mouse then ill dominate at any game, must dominate! mmoihoven!" learned to use a contoler people, when in rome..!

Target should have a playable demo within two weeks, from what I've heard around electronics.

Kick ass.

xbox with an hd tv is the best..even the regular xbox is built for hdtv. if you have a screen with hd built in the games will look 2 times better..that is all...even xbox 1.

aye. the hdtv is what is adding most of the juice, especially with 360. games can continue looking better and better, but to exploit that look, you need the better tv. similarly, dvds and tv shows have already peaked -- even jay leno looks amazing on my nbcHD versus my regular nbc (note: humor not improved through clarity)

like piggie said, xbox has always pushed the graphical angle. all three current systems will look and play better on a hd or digital tv, notably xbox 1. xbox 360 takes all those advantages and exploits them heavily.

i saw and played "call of duty" at gamestop for the 360, on an hdtv, and its amazingly sharp, clear, clean ... the colors are brilliant. the framerate was also at a remarkably high 60 fps -- and thats something that will look great on any tv, hd or otherwise. thats a big appeal for me, as i found pretty much all xbox 1 games had awful framerates. some halo 2 levels were almost unwatchable.

unfortunately... as amazing as i found call of duty to look, i was just as impressed with how boring the game was. the animations and graphics and sound were second-to-none... but holy fuck, was that game garbage. i had a similarly poor experience with perfect dark. again, the visuals were phenomenal, but i just didn't enjoy the game. granted, i didn't like the original PD much, but... originally, when it was still an xbox 1 game, PD was supposed to get this whole amazing makeover, and joanna was gonna be this hot anime-looking chick. all of that is seemingly gone now, and what was once a franchise game now strikes me as life-less.

i am, on the other hand, very interested in rare's other title, kameo. looks like a kick ass little game, with an incredibly impressive graphics boost over its original n64 days (this game has been in development for like 40 yeras, from n64 to cube to xbox to 360).

thats the system seller to me ... but also the only launch game i'm interested in.

and $500+ for one game just isn't in my gameplan.

I think 360 is going to run away with the next gen. consoles right off. Unlike what some tools at G4 are saying (Kevin Pereira, I'm looking at you), Microsoft is positioning the 360 to jump right from the onslaught. These demos, the crisp graphics, and early lauch are going to give it the leg up on Sony. Plus, the fact that developers are a lot happier with coding X-box games than they are Playstation games means that 360 games will probably benifit from better developed properties and, quite possible, a larger library than Sony will end up with.

Call of Duty the sharpest? It's good but you must haven't played many games lately. It does have the best smoke effects I've ever seen though.

There's a lot of Xbox 360 threads.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6139702.html

360 to play 200+ Xbox games
Microsoft confirms its next-gen console will play many games for its current-gen console, including Halo, Ninja Gaiden, KOTOR, Fable, GTA, and more.
After playing coy for months about the Xbox 360's backwards compatibility, Microsoft has finally come clean. The software behemoth announced late Friday that over 200 games from its current-generation console will play on its next-generation console.


As one might expect, Microsoft has made sure all the top Xbox games are supported, including Halo and Halo 2, Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic I and II, Ninja Gaiden and Ninja Gaiden Black, and the three Grand Theft Autos: III, Vice City and San Andreas. A total of 212 Xbox games will be playable on the 360 at launch, though Microsoft says that number will increase.

Friday also brought good news to Xbox Live addicts. Any of the backwards-compatible games will be playable cross-platform between the Xbox 360 and Xbox over Xbox Live. That means would-be Master Chiefs with a 360 can still own their friends playing on current-generation consoles--although the former will see the carnage in higher resolution.

However, there is a catch. To play an Xbox game on the 360, players must first insert the current-gen game into a next-gen console hooked up to Xbox Live. The system will check if the console has the latest emulation software. If not, it will automatically download said software, install it on the 360, restart, and load the original Xbox game. Obviously, a 360 hard drive--which comes with the Halo and Halo 2 software preinstalled--is required the backwards-compatibility software.

For 360 owners who either can't or won't log onto Xbox Live, Microsoft offers two other solutions. First, they can go to Xbox.com, download the emulators, burn them onto a CD, and then insert said CD into the 360, which will auto-install the software. The other option is to order a free CD from Xbox.com which will be mailed to the requestor for a "nominal" fee. However, the CD will be mailed out for free to Japanese 360 owners.

A complete list of the Xbox games that will be playable on the 360 when it ships on November 22 is below:


Alias
Aliens vs. Predator: Extinction
All Star Baseball 2003
Amped
Army Men: Sarge's War
Atari Anthology
ATV Quad Power Racing 2
Baldur's Gate Dark Alliance 2
Barbarian
Barbie Horse Adventure
Batman Begins
Battle Engine Aquila
Battlestar Galactica
Blinx 2
BMX XXX
Brute Force
Buffy the Vampire Slayer - Chaos Bleeds
Cabela’s Dangerous Hunts
Cabela’s Outdoor Adventures 06
Cabela's Deer Hunt 2005
Cabela's Deer Hunt: 2004 Season
Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth
Call of Duty: Finest Hour
Casino
Catwoman
Chicago Enforcer
Circus Maximus
Close Combat: First to Fight
Colin McRae 4
Combat Elite
Commandos 2
Conflict: Desert Storm
Constantine
Crash Bandicoot: Twinsanity
Crash Nitro Kart
Crimson Skies: High Road to Revenge
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
Curse – The Eye of Isis
Dark Angel
Darkwatch
Deathrow
Digimon Rumble Arena
Dinotopia
Dead or Alive 3
Drake
Egg Mania
ESPN MLS Extra Time 2002
Euro 2004
F1 Championship Season 2001
Fable
Fable: The Lost Chapters
Fairly Odd Parents: Breakin' da Rules
FIFA 2003
FIFA 2004
FIFA Street 2005
FIFA World Cup 2002
Fight Night 2004
Fight Night Round 2
Ford Mustang Racing
Ford vs. Chevy
Forza Motorsport
Freedom Fighters
Frogger
Futurama
Fuzion Frenzy
Genma Onimusha
Goblin Commander
Grabbed by the Ghoulies
Grand Theft Auto III
Grand Theft Auto Vice City
Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
Gravity Games Bike: Street. Vert. Dirt.
Grooverider: Slot Car Thunder
Half-Life 2
Halo
Halo 2
Harry Potter & The Goblet of Fire
Harry Potter & The Sorcerer's Stone
He-Man: Defender of Grayskull
Hitman: Contracts
House of the Dead 3
IHRA Drag Racing 2005 Sportsman Edition
IHRA Professional Drag Racing 2005
Jade Empire
James Bond 007: Nightfire
Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy
Judge Dredd: Dredd vs. Death
Jurassic Park Genesis
Kabuki Warrior
Kelly Slater's Pro Surfer
Kids Next Door: Operation VIDEOGAME
kill.switch
Legends of Wrestling
Lemony Snicket A Series of Unfortunate Events
Loons Fight for Fame
Lord of the Rings: Return of the King
Manhunt
Mat Hoffman's Pro BMX 2
Max Payne
Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne
Medal of Honor 3 Rising Sun
Medal of Honor Frontline
Medal of Honor: European Assault
Mega Man
Metal Arms: Glitch in the System
MicroMachines Odyssey
Mike Tyson Heavyweight Boxing
Monster Garage
Mortal Kombat: Deception
MTV Music Generator 3
Murakumo
MX World Tour - featuring Jamie Little
Namco Museum X Next Generation
NBA Live 2003
NBA Live 2004
Need For Speed: Underground 2
NFL Blitz 2002
NFL Blitz 20-03
NFL Blitz 20-04
NHL 2004
NHL Hitz 20-03
Ninja Gaiden
Ninja Gaiden Black
Outlaw Golf 2
Outlaw Volleyball
Pariah
Phantom Crash
Pinball Hall of Fame
Pitfall: The Lost Expedition
Predator
Prince of Persia 4: The Sands of Time
Pro Evolution Soccer 5
Pro Race Driver
PUMP IT UP
Pure Pinball
Puyo Puyo Fever
Quantum Redshift
Rayman Arena
Raze's Hell
Red Dead Revolver
Red Faction II
RedCard 20-03
Robotech: Battle Cry
Rocky: Legends
Rogue Ops
Rugby 2005
Samurai Jack
Samurai Warriors
Scooby Doo: Night of 100 Frights
Scrapland
SeaWorld: Shamu's Deep Sea Adventures
Sega GT 2002
Shadow the Hedgehog
Shellshock:Nam '67
Sid Meier's Pirates!
Simpson's Road Rage
Simpsons: Hit and Run
Sneakers
Sniper Elite: Berlin 1945
Soccer Slam
Sonic Heroes
Sonic Mega Collection
Speed Kings
Sphinx and the Cursed Mummy
Splat Renegade Paintball
SpongeBob Square Pants:Battle for Bikini Bottom
Spy Hunter 2
Spyro: A Hero's Tail
SSX 3
Stake
Star Trek: Shattered Universe
Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
Star Wars: Clone Wars
Star Wars: Jedi Starfighter
Star Wars: Knight of the Old Republic
Star Wars: Knight of the Old Republic 2
Street Racing Syndicate
Stubbs the Zombie: Rebel Without a Pulse
Super Bubble Pop
Super Monkey Ball DX
SX Superstar
Tecmo Classic Arcade
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Terminator : Dawn of Fate
Test Drive: Eve of Destruction
Tetris Worlds
The Great Escape
The Incredible Hulk
The Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction
The Incredibles: Rise of the Underminer
The Thing
Thief: Deadly Shadows
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon 2
Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six 3
Tony Hawk's American Wasteland
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4
Tony Hawk's Underground 2
Tork
Toxic Grind
Ty The Tasmanian Tiger
Ty the Tasmanian Tiger 2
Ty the Tasmanian Tiger 3
Urban Freestyle Soccer
Vexx
Volvo: Drive for Life
World Series Baseball 2K
Worms 4: Mayhem
Worms Forts Under Siege
WWE Raw 2
XIII
Yourself!Fitness


By Tor Thorsen -- GameSpot

Nice info. I've been waiting months for this, and am suprisingly more dissapointed than I thought I would be. Its a complete joke. 1st they dont make the console compatible with all games [that should be expected in this day and age], then the actual games it is compatible with they say you have to sign up to Xbox Live to play them. Its like a racket, where an asshole sells you a gun, then reveals that only his special bullets will work with it, forcing you to pay out more. Least I know this up front, which puts serious doubt on me ever getting the 360 at all, if not just for the point of the matter that Microsoft tend to take their customers for a ride because they were too lazy and wanted to get it out quick. The PS3 will kick their ass, and I'll laugh at them .....

I take it your not a fan?

I was, then I found out the specifics. Like the lack of backwards compatability, the stupid wireless controller that needs constant supplies of batteries, the fact that they were lazy and knew they had to get it out early or get completely owned by the PS3, and whats the fucking deal with selling a console without the hard-drive

Where has it said that it needs a constant supply of batteries?

My local game-shop hands out a Christmas mag. Says the Wireless controller has very limited supplies [special launch gimmick?] and needs batteries, and you know the thing will much through them badly

Plus, batteries in the wireless controller defies everything it was for me. I was seeing the wireless controller as a big leap in the gaming industry. Adding batteries to the equation just dissapoints me beyond belief

It also comes with a cord. You can plug it in and play it normally. Thats when it recharges.

Dont back-talk me! If I want to come up with shit to hate the 360 for, thats my constitutional right!

Still... a recharging controller doesnt exactly herald the age I was so looking forward to. The 360 looks like a glorified graphics advance, and not a hell of a lot more

I never thought I'd see the day when someone got so uptight and angry inregards to thier choice in videogame console. FSM, perhaps you've missed the entire point of playing video games wich is to relax and have fun. Don't want an X-Box 360? Don't buy one. Buy a PS3 and you know what. I won't even laugh maniacly at you for doing so. I'll just be relaxing and playing some video games.

you should be a video-game guru. Preaching to those who lose their temper with a video game. Microsoft should employ you, thats the only way they'll win the console race


'Channel the inner ninja, my son, weild the ferocious generosity he offers with his razor sharp sword. Bathe in the cleanliness of his soul as he shows his love for the World with his bloody shuriken and evil smile'


Video games are fun, but not when a company tries to take you for a ride like they seem to be doing with the 360. It could have been so much better, so much more fun, if only they didnt sell their souls and try to rip the World at large off by marketing early with a so called 'next generation' of home entertainment.

God, im so bitter.......

Everyone is forcing me to buy it. The healthy selection of exclusive games tease me with sweet whispers of enjoyment. Its Microsoft who are the evil ones. Keeping the enjoyment at bay with false advertising, filthy moguls wanting more money, and poor machinery

Are you for real? You're actually this worked up over a fucking game system?

And I thought Rob's luv for Nintendo was sad...

Congratulations flamerswordsman, you just got promoted from troll to fuckbitch.

Congradulations Rex, your still an asshole with nuthin' better to do

From what I can see, your disappointment is your own fault and not Microsoft's. How the hell else did you expect a wireless controller to work without batteries? Even when you learn that there's the corded option (which you said you wanted) you just bitch. As far as "how can you sell a system without a hard drive?" Ask Sony. Seriously, this is a way to get the system into people's hands quicker and cheaper at $300 instead of $400. You can buy a hard drive later and just slide it in. I see nothing wrong with the 360. It looks kick ass, and I can't wait to get it. And in case you missed it, Microsoft is offering two versions of X-Box Live. A free version and the pay version that gives you more options.

Now you see why there's a waiting period on the sale of firearms.

It does suck that not all Xbox games will be playable on the new 360. No way around that sad note. We can't even play Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory? That was a top seller!

But, everything else looks sweet. I played the King Kong demo, and that game looks sweet ass sweet. I didn't know what the FUCK I was doing, but the graphics were out of this world.

yeah.

There was a display piece at CompUSA and there was a COD2 demo. I dunno what you saw but jeez, I saw a bunch of jaggies and blurry distances! Like early PS2 jaggies! It better be because there is a customization feature to control graphics capability and performance or that the programmers were too lazy to add it at the moment. I mean with all that power why can't they place some anti-aliasing and antriscopic filtering?

The only thing I want from the 360 is Gears of War which understanding Epic, will likely be ported to PC anyway.

Flames got a point though boyos. People gettin suckered into buyin a 360 on Tuesday are gonna be kickin themselves when PS3 and Revolution come out. For Microsoft to be so green in the console wars they are makin some big mistakes. Fact is, 360 is nowhere near the technological leap that the other 2 companies are going to do. PS2 really did milk its console gaming life out. It came out much earlier than X-Box did and 360 is jumping the gun in rushing out a relatively inferior product when considering the next gen war. Once microsoft realized what kind of competition they were up against they shoulda went back to the drawing board and let X-Box 1 live out its shelf life instead of trying to beat Sony and Nintendo to the punch this Christmas. Flameswordsman is simply concerned with the way Microsoft is treating their fanbase which is with little respect in my opinion especially taking into consideration its $400 price tag to get the real console pacakge.

But if anyones still jazzed this Tuesday for 360, more power to ya!