Quote: Rob Kamphausen said: luigi's mansion was the birth of a former sidekick in a non tradtional role. donkey konga brought a franchise character out of traditional controls.
its an enormous list that you can choose to appreciate or value, but you can't ignore its existance.
Firstly, Luigi's Mansion and Donkey Kong are no different from all the other Mario clones.
Secondly, the list isn't all that enormous. And the point that I'm piggy-backing on top of the Cube whoring old characters is that the ratio of originality you're pointing out is overshadowed by legions of mario spin-off and sequel games--Or games with damn near identical gameplay/composition.
Quote: perhaps. thats a preference point (and one i'd agree with, btw). but putting starfox on land, cel shading zelda, doubling up mario kart... these are all examples of breaking the "same ole same ole."
i really dont see where you're coming from, here.
You misunderstand. What I meant by bringing up Starfox is that their decision to put him on land makes the Starfox gameplay no different than the third-person games. Dog-fighting was the last bit of uniquity he had. MarioKart's still a racing game and Zelda's still a third person adventure. In that rite (and I know you're gonna disagree with me here), I don't think they should have bothered with another MarioKart. The only reason I don't say the same about Zelda is because (not unlike MGS) it relies more heavily on both story AND gameplay.
Quote: second, or third?
Either really. Producer, maker--They're both involved.
Quote: gta is whored every bit as zelda, dont ever mistake that....
....all companies do it because thats what all companies want to do. its in all of their best interest.
I'm not going to argue with you on that, but I would like to point out that they played Zelda for the sake of Link whereas they played GTA, very notably, for its gameplay.
Quote: yeah, it was one of xbox's better games, good point.
A little reminder: PS2 had a 9 month exclusivity contract with Rockstar.
