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Firstly, Luigi's Mansion and Donkey Kong are no different from all the other Mario clones.



yer... going out of your way to comment on things you dont even know about ...?

luigi's mansion involves the main charater exploring a house, room by room, in a psuedo-resident evil style creep show. you then use two analog sticks, one for control and one for "weapon", to defeat various ghosts with a vacuum cleaner. clone, it is not.

donkey kong's cube game was a side scrolling adventure that the user controlled with bongos. bongos! all of the enemies were defeated with claps and slaps, as well as jumping and running and all interaction. odd and niche, but very fun.

if y'simply don't like something, thats cool. but dont continue making matter-of-fact comments on things you have no facts on.

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the ratio of originality you're pointing out is overshadowed by legions of mario spin-off and sequel games--Or games with damn near identical gameplay/composition.



again, this is true of all franchises, and all consoles. nintendo may have more older characters, but they've also had 20+ years of the business. every street fighter, every halo, every sonic, every mortal kombat, every pacman, every madden, every everything is based on what came before it.

its not a valid point if every console and game is guilty of it.

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You misunderstand. What I meant by bringing up Starfox is that their decision to put him on land makes the Starfox gameplay no different than the third-person games. Dog-fighting was the last bit of uniquity he had. MarioKart's still a racing game and Zelda's still a third person adventure.



holy crap.

and every new metal gear isn't based on the same gameplay? or tomb raider? or quake?

this is every game you're detailing. if you honestly feel 'wind waker' is just another 'oot' then you can make the same exact argument relating any newer game to its predecessor.

you, personally, happen to like resident evil or metal gear solid storylines, and because of that, you're somehow excluding them from the negative connotations that you're applying to other games, even though they just as readily apply to yours.

yer just being silly.

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I'm not going to argue with you on that, but I would like to point out that they played Zelda for the sake of Link whereas they played GTA, very notably, for its gameplay.



check them zelda gameplay scores. from anyone. link is the star, but the game is the core.

the same amount of people that play zelda just for link would play gta just for hot coffee.


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yeah, it was one of xbox's better games, good point.


A little reminder: PS2 had a 9 month exclusivity contract with Rockstar.



and?

its still not a boon to the console with "the most original gameplay" if the game in question appears elsewhere. similarly, in this stance, gamecube couldn't proclaim one of the madden games as proof its the greatest with gameplay.

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