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PenWing said:
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The Time Trust said:
Why would the Batman be so unbelievable? Even in OUR world the general public isn't that skeptical. Look at how many people believe in conspiracies and UFOs and all kinds of things without ever having looked at hard evidence and with an objective viewpoint.
How many people in the mainstream believe in UFOs? How many people in the mainstream believe in ghosts? Sure, there are aliens in the DCU, so there is no scepticism there. But, just because people know there are aliens that doesn't mean they believe in a Bat-Man in Gotham city who has never been caught on camera, or recorded by tape. In fact, there is no evidence at all of his existance outside of word of mouth and a spotlight. People don't want to believe what they can't explain. Batman can't be explained. There is no proof. So they buy that he's just a ghost story. Along with that comes fan clubs all over the world dedicated to whatever this Bat-Man is that the criminals in Gotham are so afraid of. He's got a cult following, just like the UFOs of the real world.
I repeat the same argument, because it hasn't really been addressed: Real aliens no longer shock people in the DCU. Why would a "Bat-Man"?
I won't even get into the idea that there is "no proof" of the Batman's existence in this day and age. I grant you that there may be insufficient "proof" of his existence (and in scientific terms it's impossible to "prove" anything, which is why that word is never used), but there is always going to be evidence and support, no matter how diligent the Bat-Man is.
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The Time Trust said:
Tell me, what is the benefit to the character of Batman by having the Batverse as part of the DCU?
Contrast. Having him there to interact with superpowered beings gives us someone we can aspire to be like. He is the best a regular man can be. He is the human element.
That's a benefit to the reader, sure. But Batman as a character doesn't need to be part of any DCU or interact with superhumans to stand for "the best a regular man can be". Sorry, but I don't buy it.
I'm still waiting to hear how it benefits the character. And I'm arguing these points not because I like to argue but because I'm waiting for a stronger argument before I'm willing to concede any points. Don't let me down.
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