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PenWing said:
Thing is, I do think Batman can exist in a world with superheroes. I don't think it's possible for Batman to be an urban myth to the people who actually live in Gotham. I think they would know he does exist, even though he has managed to keep all images out of the paper and off of the news cameras. The criminals in Gotham know he is real. But, those outside of Gotham, they don't believe in "ghosts and goblins." They think it's just something the police made up to frighten the locals and keep the criminal population under some semblance of control in a crowded, over populated, crime ridden city. I don't see Batman going around the world on grand adventures with the Justice League. I see him only interested in his city. If he is involved at all with other superheroes, it is only behind the scenes, and only as a way to keep his rogues out of their cities, and their rogues out of his. When people speak of Gotham, and someone mentions the Batman, outsiders laugh. They think Gothamites are crazy, the civilians, and the criminals who actually believe in the farce that the police, in particular Commissioner Gordon, has created. That is how I see the urban myth actually working in a world with other heroes.



My main problem is the same as Time Trusts, except its not just Aliens. Demons have over-run cities a few times [a Vaughn written JLA annual from the latest run], and even Rogue Angels have attacked cities in force a few times. I can still see your point 'Wing, one Urban legend in a World of Aliens, Demons and Spirits of Vengeance wouldnt make it true in the Publics eyes, but in a world like the DCU where they couldnt be bombarded with questionable alien sightings on TV, and other sources of media that desensitise us to the unknown [Its TV that makes makes everyone laugh at the thought of aliens], and Urban legend wouldnt be that hard to Believe, and lets face it, they really couldnt have the same TV as us when they know most super-natural and mythical things actually do exist from first-hand experience


In a world of Super-humans like Superman you always have to question Batmans role. Superman should have cleaned the World up a hundred times over, sweeping through cities at the speed of light, apprehending all wanted criminals, and imprisoning them, then many syndicates and bank-robbers would have to question their line of work

Superman would save Batman even if he didnt want him to, so even if Batman was at deaths door from an attack by the Joker, Superman should be able to hear and get there within 2 seconds [Flash takes 7 to get around the World and Gotham is on the same continent as Metropolis], so it kind of takes all believibility away from Bruces patheticly doomed war on crime

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