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wannabuyamonkey said:
Please America, don't listen in on suspected terrorists phone calls.... or at least if you're going to let them know first. My tollerance for this nonsenses is dissipating daily. We are at war. There acctually ARE people who want to kill us.... that's me, you, your family.

As much as you all like to make jokes about 9-11 it did happen and when it did tehy didn't pat themselves on teh back and say, "well, we made our point, lets move on" They went right back to the drawing board and started planning again for the next attack and the next one.

We have been successfull at thwarting alot of attempts to attack us, but slowly but surely some people have forgotten and want to chip away at the tools that we use to defeat them, slowly inching closer and closer to the dog house just to see ho wlong that leash really is.

All teh Democrats seem to want to do is defeat Bush as though he's the enemy of America (and teh only one at that) When the Gorrelic (sp?) wall was resurected teh press touted it as a defeat for Bush, well, it was a deafeat for national sucurity, wich means it was a defeat for the American people.

They'll do anything to get at W, even leak CIA information that interfears with our execution of the war and endangers us and our troops (who we're sure you all support soooo much). It seems the only kind of CIA leak they care about are those that DON'T compromise national security.



With all due respect, your comments distort the concerns of many wiretapping critics.

As MEM has mentioned, many of us who have voice concerns over wiretapping aren't out to see it scrapped completely. If it needs to be done, and in certain cases when dealing with certain people, it probably does, it should be done with just cause, to the letter of clearly written laws, and with proper oversight in place to prevent abuses of power. And many of use are concerned that this isn't happening.

Also, it wouldn't be a bad idea to make sure that the government's not wasting time, effort, or taxpayers dollars to spy on people who pose no threat to the country at the expense of not devoting enough manpower or resources to tag the real bad guys.

And be careful about comments like "you all like to make jokes about 9/11."



Last point first... You're absolutely right, I shouldn't say "all". This is an issue that I view with more than a passing intellectual intrest and my comments were fueled with more than just a little information. To you and other moderate (not even moderate, but sensible) liberals, I oppologise. There is however a tendency for people to make light of Bush "hiding" behind 9-11 as though teh Commander and Cheif isn't allowed to address it or that it was a one time oddity that won't happen again.


As far as teh wire tapping goes and my generalisations of teh critics. If it were just wire tapping then i would be fine, but I see a certain sect of the left doing every thing they can to undermine the effort viewing a loss in Iraq as a political victory against Bush. i mean teh only reason we're talking about the wire taps is because someone leaked classified national security secrets to the public, not to have the actions judged in the legal arena, but to have them judged in teh arena of public opinion.

If it's not an attemt to undermine the effort then why isn't the news going into the specifics, why is it that most people who have learned of teh story from the news don't understand even the basics. such as the only calls that are being monitered are overseas calls made regularly to regions of terrorist activity and made by people or to people that have terrorist ties. They aren't listening when you call your girlfriend or when r3... er other people call 1-900-HOT-DONKY.

If I was lead to believe that the US government was monitering random calls local and otherwise with no set criteria, i would be upsett too and if I only knew of this story from teh mass media then that's probobly exacly the conclusion I would come to.

I look forward to an inquery into this. It will reveal teh full legality of what was done and hopefully expose the rat bastard who leaked this information so they can be sent off to secret prison to undergo a couple of watter board sessions to find out what other information they're planning to leak.

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