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Animalman said:
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britneyspearsatemyshorts said: As far as steroids effecting numbers, I'll assume you don't know who Jason Giambi is.
So you're saying he got back on steroids in '05? I won't necessarily disagree with you if you say yes(as I said, I don't know enough about masking agents and such to say with absolution that he wasn't), but a lot of people took notice of his decrease in size in 2004, and subsequent struggles at the plate. Last year he had a terrific year, and didn't fail a drug test.
Furthermore, Giambi's 2004 trainwreck of a season was partly(and I can't begin to quantify to what extent) due to numerous ailments with absolutely no known ties to steroid withdrawal. Intenstinal parasites, respiratory infections, a tumor, etc.
if you consider averaging 10 less hrs 20-30 less rbis performing the same post steroids then i guess you wouldnt consider steroids as an advantage. to me thats quite an advantage.
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