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Racial Slurs Montage from "Do The Right Thing" A Spike Lee Joint circa 1987.
MOOKIE
Dago, wop, garlic-breath, guinea,
pizza-slinging, spaghetti-bending,
Vic Damone, Perry Como, Luciano
Pavarotti, Sole Mio, nonsinging
motherfucker.
PINO
You gold-teeth, gold-chain-wearing,
fried-chicken-and-biscuit-eatin',
monkey, ape, baboon, big thigh,
fast-running, three-hundred-sixty-
degree-basketball-dunking spade
Moulan Yan.
STEVIE
You slant-eyed, me-no-speak-
American, own every fruit and
vegetable stand in New York,
Reverend Moon, Summer Olympics '88,
Korean kick-boxing bastard
OFFICER LONG
Goya bean-eating, fifteen in a car,
thirty in an apartment, pointed
shoes, red-wearing, Menudo, meda-
meda Puerto Rican cocksucker.
KOREAN CLERK
It's cheap, I got a good price for
you, Mayor Koch, "How I'm doing,"
chocolate-egg-cream-drinking, bagel
and lox, B'nai B'rith asshole.
One of the best movies on race relations I've ever seen. If you've never seen it, I highly recommend it. Ranks up there with "Crash" even though they are vastly different flicks.
Oderint, dum metuant.
You are a god damned idiot, you know that? You ought to be smacked upside your dumb-fuck head, even after all these years. Shame on you! -USCHI showin' some love
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Now THAT's a movie about race that manages to be a damn good movie and not just a bunch of scenes put together to make a statement, like Crash. The director could learn a lot from Spike Lee.
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I was about to post the same thing. Do the Right Thing is a much better movie than Crash, in my opinion.
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Do the Right Thing sucked!
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Do the Right Thing sucked!
Do you say that because you truly believe so or are you just being a contrarian?
If you really didn't like it, do you have specific reasons.
Oderint, dum metuant.
You are a god damned idiot, you know that? You ought to be smacked upside your dumb-fuck head, even after all these years. Shame on you! -USCHI showin' some love
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Pariah doesn't believe in "specific reasons".
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I was about to post the same thing. Do the Right Thing is a much better movie than Crash, in my opinion.
And while we're on the subject, it turns out I have actually seen a Herzog movie! Lafatamorgana. It's a fucked up documentary about... uhhh, I think a desert.
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Yeah, that one was really weird. His documentaries are pretty awesome. My favorite is Lessons in Darkness.
Herzog is actually adapting one of his documentaries(Little Dieter Learns to Fly) into a full-length movie starring Christian Bale. I can't wait for that one.
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Christian Bale was great in American Psycho, but I wasn't crazy about him in The Bat-Man Begins. It's not that he wasn't in the same groove as AP, it's that he was too much like in AP. I'm looking forward to the Nolan movie where he's co-starring with Hugh Jackman, but only because Michael Caine and Bowie (who plays Nikola Tesla) will be there.
Oh, and because of Nolan, too.
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Yeah, that one was really weird.
I'm assuming you've seen it... Can you remind me what it was about?
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Christian Bale was great in American Psycho, but I wasn't crazy about him in The Bat-Man Begins. It's not that he wasn't in the same groove as AP, it's that he was too much like in AP. I'm looking forward to the Nolan movie where he's co-starring with Hugh Jackman, but only because Michael Caine and Bowie (who plays Nikola Tesla) will be there.
Yeah, The Prestige sounds like it's gonna rock.
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I'm assuming you've seen it... Can you remind me what it was about?
Well, it's fairly subjective, but I thought it was about the creation of the universe(or, at least, the world). It was a bunch of images in the desert with poetic narration. I think it had something to do with the Aztecs or Mayans or something. Herzog described it as "a documentary shot by extraterrestrials from the Andromeda Nebula, and left behind."
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I also posted this in the political cartoon forum version of this thread:
I'm pretty sure it was American Psycho that got Bale the role of The Bat-Man. I thought he was damn good, even if it was a similar performance.
Bale was also very good in the Machinist.
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Do you say that because you truly believe so or are you just being a contrarian?
If you really didn't like it, do you have specific reasons.
This sums it up nicely for me:
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While the film may be completely pointless, Do the Right Thing, directed by Spike Lee, is full of several racial concepts. These are portrayed through a hypothetical depiction of inner-city life that makes almost no sense.
Three older men sit on a corner all day talking about what they are going to do with their lives (despite the fact that they are probably already receiving senior citizens' discounts at McDonald’s). The reasoning they have for not achieving their goals as of yet is that The Man is holding them back. This is an example of the underclass idea which says that the absence of job opportunities causes those in poverty to be continuously unemployed. In my opinion, there are plenty of bullshit jobs out there to be had (dishwasher, gas stations, fast food, etc. I've done them all), but people seem to be too proud to take them. On the other hand, they have no problem begging others for money. Where's the pride in that? Of course, Lee doesn't elaborate this far, and just sticks to trying to show how unfair the Bruthas are treated in our society.
Another ideal shown in Do the Right Thing is authoritarian personality. This is the type of personality that is characterized by arrogance toward persons or groups thought to be inferior. An example of this is given as a non-African American man drives through the streets on a hot muggy day. A fire hydrant has been opened and children are playing in the water, seeking relief from the smoldering heat. The man is driving a convertible Caddilac, and when he sees what is going on, he goes out of his way to threaten the people not to get his car wet. He feels he's better than these people, but that's common with people with fair skin, right?
Discrimination is the unequal treatment of individuals based on their minority membership. Lee reverses these roles by portraying whites as minorities. A white man riding his bike through town almost gets jumped as a result of the color of his skin. A pizza shop gets destroyed because the owner honored Italians on the walls inside his restaurant. In the end, though, all this angst is a result of the discrimination which has smothered African Americans.
Lee seems to be complaining the black folk have been, and are still being, negatively stereotyped, yet he stereotypes everyone in this, including blacks. "Radio" Raheem- stereotypical "ghetto boy" with the enormous boom-box. Orientals who can't understand the English language run the local convenient store. Italians either have loads of money or they have restaurants. True, African Americans have had a rough time in the past, but who hasn't? At one time or another, everyone undergoes discriminative persecution that is absolutely unfair. Sure, people have different tastes, ideas, and cultures. But when it comes down to it, we as humans are all the same. We all have the same basic needs, we just go about things differently.
People like Spike Lee who make statements like Do the Right Thing are actually a major factor in today's ridiculous problem of racism. If everyone would just chill out for a while and try to focus on getting along with one another, discrimination of all kinds would die down significantly. As for this motion picture, Ed Wood has made better.
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I also posted this in the political cartoon forum version of this thread:
I'm pretty sure it was American Psycho that got Bale the role of The Bat-Man. I thought he was damn good, even if it was a similar performance.
Bale was also very good in the Machinist.
Aintitcool News said I had a lot to do with it too. A lot of people on the messageboards were saying they wanted Bale.
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my racist and rascist friends, along with my ethnic-loving self, were one day trying to come up with a list of all of the uncomfortable mentions of the n-word by famous actors we could never imagine saying it -- often uttered in the most offensive ways possible. off memory: the father from "that 70s show" - time to kill
keifer "jack bauer" sutherland - time to kill
ashley judd - time to kill
benson - lean on me
morgan "most beloved man today" freeman - lean on me
the father "from boy meets world" - american history x
sam jackson - everything
quentin tarrantino - pulp fiction
gene wilder - blazing saddles
warren beatty - bullworth
denzel - glory
matthew broderick - glory
stone cold steve austin - longest yard
eric "rocky" stolz - resevoir dogs
jack nicholson - shining
gregory "atticus finch" peck - to kill a mockingbird
the "boy meets world dad" moment was the one i remember finding especially cringe-worthy and awful. i know he's an actor and all, but... i found it VERY out of the only established character i knew.
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Eric Stoltz was in Pulp Fiction, not Reservoir Dogs.
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quentin tarrantino - pulp fiction
gene wilder - blazing saddles
Dunno if this makes me racially insensitive, but I thought those were two of the funniest moments in movie history. I laughed just thinking about them now.
The "time to kill" ones were uncomfortable, though.
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Dennis Hopper's speech in True Romance was pretty funny, too.
I guess Tarrantino likes that word.
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gregory "atticus finch" peck - to kill a mockingbird
As I recall, the only time Atticus said it was when he admonished his daughter not to use the term.
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There was a movie where Peter Falk said "nigger", but I can't remember what it was. I just remember laughing out of amazement.
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Eric Stoltz was in Pulp Fiction, not Reservoir Dogs.
bah, good catch.
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Dunno if this makes me racially insensitive, but I thought those were two of the funniest moments in movie history. I laughed just thinking about them now.
they were funny references. but while watching it, there was a certain... i dunno... shock or awkwardness in its use, that i wasn't expecting.
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As I recall, the only time Atticus said it was when he admonished his daughter not to use the term.
aye. said it all the same, though.
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Yes, but you were discussing incidents where it was said in a manner that was offensive, unimaginable and/or made you uncomfortable.
Given the time in which the movie was set, the nature of Atticus' character, and the fact he was specifically telling someone NOT to use the word, I simply thought it was odd to include it on this particular list.
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nope.
absolutely made me uncomfy.
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I guess I just find that ironic, because of the all the films on your list, as far as I know 'Mockingbird' is the only one based on a true story...and that is the way people spoke in the 1930s south.
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I thought A Time To Kill was also based on a true story(even though it's set in a fictional town).
Whether or not I'm made uncomfortable by the word "nigger" usually depends on its context.
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