Quote: Captain Sammitch said: Shame of the Buckeyes?
For some reason, I'm not particularly embarrassed of one of the greatest college athletic programs in history... in a rather more challenging conference than the one Texas relaxes in. Read the records, tim.
your right......oklahoma, texas, nebraska, colorado
they have been nothing compared to the door mats that are mich. mich st. , alll the way down. how many championships do the big 12 teams have in the last, what, 15 years? 6. big ten? 2. that 3 times as many.
so, that means what, there is dominance. and as storied as the shamefully beaten buckeyes may be, they do not have the win totals of texas. besides, any conference with minnesota, mich. st, purdue, iowa, illinios, northwestern, shouldn't be trying to call others weak. if it wasn't mired in mediocraty it wouldn't be so laughable.
tim your grip on sporting reality is obviously tenuous at best. The largest state schools in the 4 states you have mentioned claim a number of NCAA national titles (in all sports) almost equivalent to those held by Ohio State and Michigan alone. There really is no contest here. The list continues. Indiana is college basketball. Michigan State? Same thing. Also, the NCAA has titles for this sport called hockey. It's played on ice, so I dunno how familiar you'd be with it. Except for Colorado (which is quite good), I don't know if any of the schools you mentioned even have men's hockey teams. Michigan, Michigan State, Wisconsin, and Minnesota have all won NCAA titles in men's ice hockey within the last ten years.
Football... the greatest rivalries in college football are between or involve teams from the Big Ten - Ohio State/Michigan, anyone? The two aforementioned teams and Notre Dame are three of the top five greatest college football programs ever on a number of lists, in case you don't get ESPN Classic where you are.
Illinois were the runners-up in basketball last year. Three Big Ten schools made it to the Sweet 16 last year, more than any other conference except the ACC. The Big Ten routinely sends more teams to the NCAA basketball tournament - men's and women's - than all other conferences except the SEC and ACC, and in some years the Pac-10.
We're not even delving into a lot of women's sports like volleyball and field hockey, or less high-profile sports like lacrosse. The only college sport I can think of where the Big Ten is not a dominant force is baseball. Though I'm sure there's some obscure game out there where they're not represented much at all.
And what is this shamefully beaten you keep mentioning in conjunction with Ohio State? If you're referring to one or two isolated games (and the football games you are probably thinking of were actually quite close), you're making a very sweeping assertion based on a very small slice of a very remarkable history.
That is all.
Last edited by Captain Sammitch; 2006-04-063:18 AM.
Except for Colorado (which is quite good), I don't know if any of the schools you mentioned even have men's hockey teams. Michigan, Michigan State, Wisconsin, and Minnesota have all won NCAA titles in men's ice hockey within the last ten years.
