Quote: harleykwin said: Actually, the South Bronx isn't bad, Bobbo. Certainly not what it was like 20 -hell, even 10 - years ago, but now? It's pretty cool - you just have to keep your head about you after dark, but I think that's due to Bronx Supreme being right there and night court (as it is in all the boroughs) is always a bit sketch. But still "horrifying"? Not even.
alright, alright, it "can be pretty crappy"
geebus. i exaggerate.
and yes, there is an upgrade between now and 10-15 yeras ago. but even still, the comparison between the money of those inside the (current) stadium, and those outside is substantial and jarring.
its not exactly the kinda place you'd want your car breaking down.
Quote: harleykwin said: The money will change it - I hope you're right about it being for the better, though. Best case scenario is that they build up existing or more businesses in the area - which are currently split about 60/40 between being PR and DR owned - but then again, the current stadium is there and that hasn't brought in better businesses over the years, even with all the Yankee traffic that comes with it, so who knows?
well, like we both agreed, i think there have been improvements in the past decade or so. 15 years ago, yanks were drawing 15k a game. now, its 50k. big financial difference.
plus, new york has, as a whole, grown economically in the past ten years, notably through the giuliani era. its no longer the "bronx zoo" that it was when georgie first took yankees office.
but i think an entire new stadium, which based on the renders is moreso like an entire new complex that features a stadium, will do so much more.
it will force construction and development in the area, and bring nonstop attention to the zone, even moreso than it does now. development equals buzz and buzz equals money, so storefronts and such will jump at the opportunity.
plus, since they're leaving the existing stadium (or at least major playing field) they're essentially doubling the "safe area" of yankee stadium, which will do nothing but help the region.
honestly, i see this as really an enormous opportunity to take not-the-greatest of areas and entirely revitalize it, like the orioles did with their new stadium.
if a handful of yankee-themed restaurants or stores or museums open up around the block, maybe some special yankee-themed apartment buildings (look into it, joe!), it will just radiate outward.