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Rob Kamphausen said:
offensive stats aside...

how much clout do you feel a gold-glove calibur defense carries? and also, how much clout do you feel the typical "team-leader" intangible aspects carry?

both in how the mvp award is awarded and how you feel it should be awarded?



I think you need to look at the entire picture. I don't argue what Jeter means to his team year in, year out. I won't even argue that Ortiz isn't the #1 pick for MVP this year. The offensive and defensive categories, to me, mean just as much as the intangibles you mentioned. Which is why I'd say that Ortiz deserved the MVP last year - A-Rod wasn't even the most valuable player on his TEAM, how was he the most valuable player in the LEAGUE?

This year, I'd give it to Dye, Morneau, or Jeter. Whichever team goes deeper into the playoffs.

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