First off, im not a bias'ed Marvel fan. Im just playing Devils Advocate to the Marvel-nay'sayers and trying to illustrate that Marvel rock the boat a little more than DC, even if it is sometimes ill-concieved

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Prometheus said:
How long will the "rift" between Cap and Iron Man last? Really?





Not that long, probably. There are still rumours that Millar will be absconding Cap. to Canada to start up his new Alpha Flight book. Rumours aren't fact, but we all know the industry can't keep spoilers to save their lives

To play devils advocate: just how long did Batmans gripe with Hal Jordon last?! Atleast Cap and Iron Man will have a difference in beliefs, while Hal flat-out fucked Batman over by being in on his mind-wipe. Then he slugs batman in the face, and we're still meant to believe Batman forgave all and they are friends again?! This bag of shit can't be blamed on a big yellow cockroach

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How is wiping out 90% of the mutants helpful, if Marvel is just going to turn around and create new ones to take their place? Or, re-power them again?




It's not helpful in the slightest, it was a poor move to try and elimate Morrison's progression of the X-franchise and has probably set the X-books back another decade in the way of new idea's

DA: Im sure "new earth" will offer some nice little retcons

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Is killing off Alpha Flight something major and impressive? Or is it just "the death of B-listers"?





It was cheap and shameless shock-value, just like Firestorm and Superboy's deaths. Mark Millar is reportedly reviving a new Alpha Flight under his pen, so Bendis thought he'd milk the current roster for everything they are worth

Dpends on how you look at it, but I honestly rate the thought of a relaunched team over the induction of a minority in DC's new forced approach or to escape a law-suit

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How was Magneto becoming a junkie and killed ill-concieved? Because he tried to push things forward and make interesting changes? Or because Marvel immediately caves under marketing pressure, pulls a "sweep-under-the-rug" retcon by making him Xorn/Not-Xorn/Xorn's brother, and having him return to being *yawn* sameold, sameold?




he should have known it wasn't going to stick, that's why it was ill-concieved

Morrison works wonder's, but turning Magneto into a junky who somehow had healing powers was not one of his better idea's. A new approach can sometimes be refreshing, but I get enough of 'crazy terrorist Magneto' in Ultimate X-men, the regular version should sutain some of his anti-hero pretenses, as Marvel immediately did with him joining Xavier as a friend again, being a pawn in House of M, and now he's powerless, no doubt to start some Mutant religion/movement as a figure-head more than enforcer

Look at Luthor aswell, was his drug induced ignorance anygood? Where the Fuck did the idea of Luthor injecting Kryptonite and Venom at the same time come from?! Gladly this has been removed from play aswell


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Come on. DC may not be the greatest purveyor of 21st century comics, but, by comparison they've always had more balls at changing and progressing than Marvel ever will...




Not true, atleast from my POV.
Look at the list I made in my last post of recent changes and then take a look at Batman, Superman, and the whole Infinite Crisis project. IC is not about change or reprucussions, it's just a "clean slate". Didio's own words. A chance for them to tell a story and at the same time sweep some shit editorial decisions under the carpet at the same time. DC will never have the cojones to change Batman or Superman, and anything they've ever attempted to the contrary has quickly been forgotten or erased, like No Mans Land or Superman Blue. Both just memories with no long lasting effects and nary a mention


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