As I said last night, I'm not going to apologize for being a loyal fan, but I am going to apologize for being a major asshole. I have had a rough and a six-pack too many beers in the fridge. So last night I handeled my anxiety in the most mature manner that I know: getting drunk and anonomously insulting strangers on the internet.

Now, that I am sober I would like to respond to a few things that Nowhereman said; I think he had some good points but I do disagree about a few.


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Nowhereman said:
Its no surprise you defend them considering your first exposure to them was ..and Justice for all, their first foray into mainstream metal!




While I agree that "...Justice" and "Metallilca" were transitional albums, I would't say that "...Justice" is mainstream. True, "One" was their first video, but even it was way too dark, way too long, and way too loud to be considered a mainstream radio friendly track. I think it is more fair to say that "... Justice" is the apex of the progressive metal evolution of the band that began during the Cliff Burton days. It maybe be bloated at moments, but I think that in many ways it is the culmination of the bands technical talents and arrangement abilities.

So while "One" is my favorite Metallica song and this album contains some of my favorite tracks ("Harvester" and "Blackened") I would say that "...Justice" (for me) is one of their lesser albums. Personally, I like "Kill Em All" the best on the whole.

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Nowhereman said:
Dont get all pissy at us & say you are gonna get flamed when you have just flamed us!



Guilty

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Nowhereman said:
For the record Metallica have sold out!

Trying new sounds is one thing, but hiring Bob Rock to produce their black album (which I do enjoy) was a blatant move away from the Bay area thrash scene to the worldwide charts!
I aint slamming them for wanting to be a huge worldwide sucess making shit loadsa money, but I am slamming them for fucking lying about it!




You make a good point about Bob Rock and I will agree that I think the guy is a tool. But, I think that ultimately he has helped to bring out some of the bands finest musical moments, so I respect him for that. I'm not sure what you mean when you say that they are lying about wanting to be a success. But, I will agree with you and the Doctor that there is something honest about a more Gene Simmions obvious corporate whore appraoch.

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Nowhereman said:
As for your comments about old bands like Priest etc.
Have you ever actually listened to Priest?
If you can honestly tell me that Priest of 79 sounds like Priest of 2006, then you are a fucking tone deaf idiot!
Black Sabbath also sounds nothing like they did in the 70s (and if you think that the Ozzy, Dio & Martin stuff sounds the same, then once again, open your fucking ears).

Maiden & AC/DC I will grant you, dont try to sound too different than they used to, but then again nobody wants them to, and thats why people still respect them & buy their records!




Yeah, I was basically talking out of my ass here. I haven't listened to much of Priest's new stuff, but you are absolutely right about Ozzy. However, I did say that I still respect those guys for sticking with their original sound.

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Nowhereman said:
Your last comment about farting into a microphone is very telling of your mindset.
You are a loyal fan yes, but you are too fucking loyal if you are willing to accept shit served up on a silver platter & actually still pay for it!
Even I accept my favourite bands have put out some stinkers in their time, and I voice my opinion on this not fucking support half arsed attempts at doing something the fans dont wanna hear!



Guilty. I will admit that I suffer from something akin to "battered wife syndrome" with Metallica, but I stick by the fact that I think their music should be allowed to change as they grow and mature. You do have to call them as you see them.


You wan
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Nowhereman said:
na voice your support of this shit, then fine, just dont insult our intelligence by slamming us for voicing our lack of support!



Guilty and now that I have swallowed that shit sandwich of my own creation I hope I have re-established some of my credibility. You guys touched a nerve, but I clearly over-reacted. In the end, I think it's strange that people who probably have taste in music that is 95% similar can get into some of the biggest arguments. So I guess I am "some kind of whiner" myself!

I am a man with needs. Rack JLA!!!