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TORCH #919: TNA NEWSWIRE INTERVIEW HIGHLIGHTS Kevin Nash was subject of a TNA media conference call on June13. The following are key exerpts...
-Veteran advice for younger guys: "I think the younger generation still hasn't leanred you gotta work smarter, not harder. A lot of times there's a way to do things and you don't kill yourself. I watch a lot of these guys work. A lot of these guys work not only the four times a month for TNA, but another ten or twelve indy shows and they go out there and they go to the wall with it. I worry because the style has gotten so crazy that these guys aren't going to see 30. That'd be a shame because there's no reason these guys can't be wrestling in their mid-30s and retire when they want to instead of having to quit. I want to show them there are different styles other than the one style they have. There is a time and place to use highspots or not use a highspots. If I can stop one guy from getting hurt out there, I think I've accomplished a lot."
-On the DX reunion: "If they do it with the same creative genius as the NWO, I'm sure it will fail. Shawn is a Christian, Shawn's a very devout Christian. If you look at DX and the things they did, it was pretty risque. A lot of it was very sexual. I don't see Shawn doing that again. From a standpoint of Kevin Nash's interests, how are they going to storyline-wise be able to pull this off with Shawn's convictions. I think that will be an interesting thing to watch."
-On X Division angle: "I think so far this angle has been done right and done well. Who's to say I'm not going to go out and get beat on Sunday. Nobody knows what the finish is. People need to withold judgment until they see what happens. I don't think anyone thought Alex (Shelley) would be pulled into the storyline. There are a lot of things creatively that have been done really well. People need to watch it, enjoy it or not enjoy it, but watch it."
-On why he prefers working with smaller guys: "The worst kind of match for a big guy is Kane vs. Big Show. They work much better against someone smaller. He said he did enjoy facing Undertaker because he could move, but otherwise didn't enjoy big man vs. big man matches. He said it's usually "like watching paint dry."
-On his chances against X Division wrestlers: "If this was a shoot, could any of those guys beat me? I don't think there's anybody in the X Division who could beat me in a shoot."
-On facing Chris Sabin from the "No Limits" X Division: "The only thing that will limit this match is gravity and how far I can throw him."
-On working with Alex Shelley: "I think Shelley's been doing a great job. He's a smart ass. He's sarcastic. When he did the Borash impersonation, that's the type of character you need. That's the type of innate quality he has. I'm really happy with my partnership with him. I don't wnat to bring anyone else into that. I want to see how far he and I can go. Maybe down the line, I get injured and I become a body guard for him and he becomes the Shawn Michaels and I become the body guard again. He has a nice run and we protect him. There are a million variables. He's charismatic, he can work, he can talk, he can do ga-ga. He's a real talented guy. Let's nurture that and let that build. He's 21 years old. You don't even learn to work until you're 28. The old timers would always say you didn't konw how to work until you get hurt. You have to work because you can't use your athleticism anymore. I feel like at this point in his career, I'm like dracula, I need that young blood around."
-On Scott Hall: "I've called him six times in the last few weeks and he hasn't returned my calls. It's never a good sign when Scott doesn't call me back. I don't think he's really a viable entity to do anything with right now. I always say he's the greatest talent never to be a World Champion."
-On whether he's still passionate about wrestling: ""I'm excited again. Im watching wrestling, I'm watching tapes again. My mind's back into it. I'm hvaing a good time. I'm having a lot of fun. It's good to be around these young guys who are so passionate. I remember when I was like that. It's a good place to be."
-On potentially writing an autobiography: "No, never. My life's my life, my life's personal. The things I've done with my friends are mine. Number one, I've got a ten year old boy. I couldn't tell my story and have my ten year old boy read it. I couldn't do it. If I can't be truthful, if I can't tell my whole story, I can't tell any of my story."
-On the return of ECW: "It's already got the WWE flavor to it that it's not ECW. Big Show wasn't in ECW. Cena's gonna be there tonight. It's too diluted and it's going to have the slick overproduced flavor of the WWE... It's a very male driven, 18-34 demographic thing. I don't know. As one of the boys, I wish it success. It's another place for the boys to work. If they let Paul Heyman do it, it will work... I think Paul should not have sold out his ECW in the first place and he wouldn't be under the control of the McMahon empire right now. Then we could actually seee ECW again. I think maybe Paul should worry about Paul."
-On who stands out in TNA: "In the showers or in the locker room? I'm really, really impresed with Joe because Joe's got a lot of talent and Joe's one of the nicest human beings you'll meet in your life. He's always got a smle on his face. I think he will be a poster boy. He's the type of guy you can drop in a mall, drop in an auto place, and there's a charimsa to him. People like him, people are drawn to him. And his work in the ring is really good."
-On potentially facing Samoa Joe in an X Division challenge: "It would no longer be an X Division match, it'd be Joe vs. Nash. Joe weighs maybe ten pounds less than I do."
-Other Notes: Nash said he is a big fan of MMA... He said his angle in WCW with Rey Mysterio was a genuine attempt to show that anyone of any size could beat anyone on any given day, but he began the angle backwards as Rey should have beat him at the end, not beginning, of such a storyline... He said he would welcome EricBischoff joining TNA as an on-air character... He said he would only book TNA if he were part of a committee, not solo... He said he enjoys acting, but wrestling gives him a different kind of rush because in acting, it's start and stop and its pieced together later, whereas with wrestling, you get instant feedback from the audience and more creative control...
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A shoot fight is a real fight. Both men are really trying to hurt each other.
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet." Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet." Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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thanks.
he'd still have a tough time of it. they would just go for his knees.
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For example, a few years back, Goldberg and Jericho got into backstage. That was a shoot, one which Jericho allegedy got the better of, which makes me happy. Fuck you, Bill!
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Knutreturns said: Spoken like the true Greatest RDCW Champ!
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Nash is a complete idiot.
Talking shit about shoot matches - that cunt coundn't shoot fight anyone!
A lot of wrestlers actually believe wrestling to be real and think they can fight for real - no they can't.
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We need to dig up that article from when the WWE wrestlers beat the shit out of the kickboxers.
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whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet." Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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I remember when Goldberg was talking about going into shoot fighting years ago. those dudes would've killed him. 
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There are only a few wrestlers I believe would kick major ass in shoots. Kurt, Taz (back in his prime, at least), Samoa Joe, Brock Lesnar, and perhaps one or two others.
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Lesnar? The guy was too bulky muscle wise to be good in a real fight! Thats the mistake guys like Nash make when they come out with shit like this, big does not necessarily mean better! I'd put my money on a guy like RVD long before I put any money on a guy like Nash, Goldberg or Lesnar!
Guys like Taker or Kane would have a better chance as they are not so bulky muscle wise, and do have a lot of natural speed!
The guys with martial arts backgrounds (like RVD) would also have a lot more going for them in a shoot fight. Fuck, Tajiri would be better than Nash!
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I say Lesnar, because in addition to the size, he's somewhat agile for a guy his size, and he's got the amateur wrestling background like Angle. Again, Angle will top my list time and again, because he won the gold medal with a broken FRICKIN' neck!
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Have you seen the pictures of Lesnar when he was an amateur wrestler? He was skinnier than Zach Gowens missing leg!
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So? Kurt Angle routinely wrestled in a weight class higher than his actual weight, and more often than not, would win. Are you actually agreeing with Kevin Nash???
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No, I'm saying that you cant judge the Lesnar of then against the Lesnar of now! Back in his amateur days he was very lithe & might have been able to have a half decent fight, but now he is not that Lesnar! The fact he probably had some serious steroid abuse to get him to his current size, would also go against him!
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Lesnar actually has the skills and amateur background that would do him well in those situations. unlike Nash and Goldturd.
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I can see Nash in a fight! Nash throws a punch. Five hours later it reaches the point where his opponent was, but during that five hours, Nash's arm broke!
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Either that, or he dislocates his shoulder as he rears back to punch.
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I was reading an article in a fight magazine a few years back, it was about legit tough guys in wrestling.
Angle was rated highly and as Grimm & Snarfbaby added, Lesnar. Though this was the Lesnar at his WWE prime.
They make a joke of Goldbergs talk of going into shoot fighting in Japan - this was at the time where Cro Crop was mauling US and Asian wrestlers in Japan.
I can't remember any of the other 'legit' wrestlers but Angle and Lesnar were the only WWE guys. They did make fun of Justin Hawk Bradshaw(before he was JBL), Steiner and 'taker for guys who think they're the shit.
The most derision was saved for Bob Sapp - Sapp by name........
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He hasn't actually wrestled in a while, but Steve Blackman always struck me as a guy not to mess with.
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Steven Regal and Finaly are supposed to be old time shoot fighters.
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I wouldn't want to mess with Steven Segal!
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britneyspearsatemyshorts said: Steven Regal and Finaly are supposed to be old time shoot fighters.
I heard Vader was too.
For real.
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I could shoot fight any one of you smurfs!
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britneyspearsatemyshorts said: Steven Regal and Finaly are supposed to be old time shoot fighters.
I heard Vader was too.
For real.
Vader did shoot fighting in Japan. he held the UWFI title in 93, until Nobuhiko Takada (?) beat him and injured Vader's arm. this was just before Vader lost the WCW title to Flair at Starrcade.
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King Snarf said: He hasn't actually wrestled in a while, but Steve Blackman always struck me as a guy not to mess with.
AS someone with a martial arts background, and some training with Ken Shamrock, I'd pretty much guarantee Blackman could kick an arse or two! Oh and this sorta backs it up
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July 14, 2003: Steve Blackman opened a self-defense school in Harrisburg called "Blackman's Self Defense & Street-Fighting School"..
I'd also hazard a guess that Billy Gunn/Kip James could do wellin a shoot. Its been well noted that he is a natural athlete, and he was one of the strongest guys on the WWE roster a few years back, despite not being as big as a lot of the guys!
You'd also have to give a nod to Benjamin & Haas as ex-amateur wrestlers.
And believe it or not, one guy you would not wanna fight is Rico. Although it was occasionally mentioned on WWE tv, we never really got to see much of his martial arts expertise, but by all accounts, he was quite accomplished. Plus on top of that, he was also graduated top of his class at a Military academy & was a SWAT police officer!
Then of course there is Sean O'Haire.
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Nowhereman said: And believe it or not, one guy you would not wanna fight is Rico. Although it was occasionally mentioned on WWE tv, we never really got to see much of his martial arts expertise, but by all accounts, he was quite accomplished. Plus on top of that, he was also graduated top of his class at a Military academy & was a SWAT police officer!
Plus he was an American Gladiators champion, so he can kick your ass with a giant Q-Tip.
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Shit,I knew there was something else I meant to mention!
And anyway, if he didnt beat your arse, he'd touch it! Either way, he wins!
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I'm sure guys like Jericho, Benoit, and Storm (who were all trained in the shoot style at Stu Hart's Dungeon) could all do some serious damage (as Jericho showed against Goldturd). I'll give Goldturd and Monty Brown some credit and say that, as ex-football players, they at least would know how to take someone down in a fight (can we please have an ex-pro-football player who doesn't have a tackle as a signature move). Not to mention all the guys with amateur and martial arts backgrounds that are floating around in pro-wrestling today. Add to that the fact that a lot of these guys are used to doing intense, 20 to 30 minute matches where a real fight would last only a few minutes, wrestlers are a pretty tough bunch of sons of bitches.
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Oh, and I was sposed to mention ex-ranger Perry Saturn! He could fuck anyone up just so long as he hasnt broken his neck again!
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Or trip over the dress he's wearing.
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Perry Saturn goddamn took a bullet to his neck and still kicked ass!
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