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Smoking ban for 'Tom and Jerry' in Britain
 LONDON (AFP) - Smoking scenes in "Tom and Jerry" cartoons are now banned in Britain, following a viewer's complaint to the government agency that polices the airwaves.
In one episode of the classic US cartoon series, Tom is seen smoking a roll-up cigarette in a bid to impress a female cat. In another, Tom's opponent in a tennis match was seen smoking a large cigar.
Following an investigation prompted by the anonymous viewer's complaint, regulator Ofcom said Monday that children's TV channel Boomerang has agreed to edit out scenes deemed to glamorise or condone smoking.
"We note that, in 'Tom and Jerry', smoking usually appears in a stylised manner and is frequently not condoned," said Ofcom, recalling how the cartoons were made in the 1940s, 1950s and 1960s when smoking was not so controversial.
"However, while we appreciate the historic integrity of the animation, the level of editorial justification required for the inclusion of smoking in such cartoons is necessarily high."
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What the fuck? Those were some of the classic episodes! I hate this banning shit.
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That's bullshit.It's a cartoon for Gob's sake!!Might as well edit Bugs Bunny for cross-dressing or Wile E. and his crazy killing inventions.Stupidity reigns.
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I thought Cartoon Network did that already.
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I don't think they even show the classic toons anymore except on Boomerang & most of those are Hanna-Barbera creations.
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Not that I am defending this, but what you have to take into consideration is that Europe takes the whole issue of cigarettes seriously!
The first step was to stop all advertising boards hosting cigarette ads within a certain vicinity of schools!
Next it was stopping adverts on tv for cigarettes.
And now, there is a total ban on cigarette advertising!
I would say that in this instance, Boomerang has done this to protect themselves in case the government decided that they were breaking laws by seemingly showing something that paints smoking in a positive light!
Bullshit I know that it might be viewed as this, but when do things like this ever make sense when the morally righteous get involved?
As Boomerang is aimed at kids, I can sorta understand them taking a tougher stance on this and not wanting to risk possible prosecution, but editing is not the answer!
The simplest thing is simply to not show that particular cartoon!
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If there was only someone to tell the kids that smoking can be bad for you. Maybe someone that would be responsible for that kids growth and development. Someone to tell them right from wrong. I wonder if someone like that exists?
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From the behavoir of children in my part of the city, the parents that Rex is obviously referring to seem not to be terribly interested in providing guidance, as the children are loud and quite obnoxious here.... which is a shame, as lack of proper parenting, in a large enough scale can prove to be a factor in the downfall of a superpower.. such as the USA.
I have seen 4 year old kids smoking cigarrettes a few blocks from me, and using swear words that I did not know about till age 12 or 13. Very sad.
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Dear, sweet Harley Kwink...I'm madly in love with you. Marry me! We can go to Canadia. Or Boston or something. It'll be grand...You know the cookies are a given. They are ALWAYS a given. You could dump me tomorrow and you'd still get the cookies. Boston..shit, wherever dyke weddings were legalized. And where better to rub their little piggie noses in how bad they suck than right on their doorstep? What are they gonna do? Be jealous of you? Stare furiously at your tah-tahs? Not willingly give you cookies, but instead begrudgingly give you their cookies? Woman, time to wake up to the powers you wield - Uschi
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.... *sigh*....it's called "sarcasm", sweety... 
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....*sigh*....it's called "sarcasm", sweety...
Yes, baby, I know... pity you can't recognize it when its tossed backatcha...
Dear, sweet Harley Kwink...I'm madly in love with you. Marry me! We can go to Canadia. Or Boston or something. It'll be grand...You know the cookies are a given. They are ALWAYS a given. You could dump me tomorrow and you'd still get the cookies. Boston..shit, wherever dyke weddings were legalized. And where better to rub their little piggie noses in how bad they suck than right on their doorstep? What are they gonna do? Be jealous of you? Stare furiously at your tah-tahs? Not willingly give you cookies, but instead begrudgingly give you their cookies? Woman, time to wake up to the powers you wield - Uschi
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....*sigh*....it's called "sarcasm", sweety...
Yes, baby, I know... pity you can't recognize it when its tossed backatcha...
....well?....I'm waiting.....
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Not that I am defending this, but what you have to take into consideration is that Europe takes the whole issue of cigarettes seriously!
The first step was to stop all advertising boards hosting cigarette ads within a certain vicinity of schools!
Next it was stopping adverts on tv for cigarettes.
And now, there is a total ban on cigarette advertising!
I would say that in this instance, Boomerang has done this to protect themselves in case the government decided that they were breaking laws by seemingly showing something that paints smoking in a positive light!
Bullshit I know that it might be viewed as this, but when do things like this ever make sense when the morally righteous get involved?
As Boomerang is aimed at kids, I can sorta understand them taking a tougher stance on this and not wanting to risk possible prosecution, but editing is not the answer!
The simplest thing is simply to not show that particular cartoon!
I'm in agreement with Nowhereman on this. Boomerang, like any TV network or station, has to look at its bottom line. It has to keep viewers and sponsors while not racking up fines. But the solution is in simply not showing those episodes instead of re-editing them. I'm not a fan of trying to whitewash the past by changing things in old cartoons and/or movies.
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I'm in agreement with the doctor and CC....I hate Government intervention of any kind. But we have to live with it ....you can't fight the man. I only lose my temper with this shit when they stop offering the originals for sale. I still have some VCR tapes of bugs bunny drssed in black face on 2 different occasions and it is pretty funny. I used to grow up watching it and sometime in the early to mid 90s it simply dissapeared. Now you can't even buy it anymore.
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Not to mention the editing out of the cartoon suicides. "Well, now I've seen everything," and then the cartoon cat/dog/bird/mouse/whatever puts the revolver against his head and pulls the trigger. I always found that shit funny. At least as funny as an anvil crashing down on someone's head. You wanna know why? Because it's a fucking cartoon, and I always knew it wasn't real!
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet." Our Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man said: "no, the doctor's right. besides, he has seniority."
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....*sigh*....it's called "sarcasm", sweety...
Yes, baby, I know... pity you can't recognize it when its tossed backatcha...
....well?....I'm waiting.....
I see you miss the obvious...
Dear, sweet Harley Kwink...I'm madly in love with you. Marry me! We can go to Canadia. Or Boston or something. It'll be grand...You know the cookies are a given. They are ALWAYS a given. You could dump me tomorrow and you'd still get the cookies. Boston..shit, wherever dyke weddings were legalized. And where better to rub their little piggie noses in how bad they suck than right on their doorstep? What are they gonna do? Be jealous of you? Stare furiously at your tah-tahs? Not willingly give you cookies, but instead begrudgingly give you their cookies? Woman, time to wake up to the powers you wield - Uschi
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Not to mention the editing out of the cartoon suicides. "Well, now I've seen everything," and then the cartoon cat/dog/bird/mouse/whatever puts the revolver against his head and pulls the trigger. I always found that shit funny. At least as funny as an anvil crashing down on someone's head. You wanna know why? Because it's a fucking cartoon, and I always knew it wasn't real!
Exactly.
I get that Boomerang and co. have to look at the bottom line - at the end of the day, its a business and nobody wants their profits hit. I think its not so much a "concern" for what kids may d or see, but fear of advertisers w/drawing their ads, etc., which equals bookoo bucks. So, it makes sense on a financial level, but what still bothers me - beyond the editing - is that we all grew up watching this and I don't believe that anyone took these cartoons seriously. Wil E. Coyote falling off a cliff; Tom getting hit by an anvil, etc. - anything that by today's standards is offensive or deemed too dangerous - did anyone really have a problem with any of this while growing up? Since the company is dressing it up as concern for its viewers well then, my question is: if our generation was ok with it, why is the next generation being handled with kid gloves?
Dear, sweet Harley Kwink...I'm madly in love with you. Marry me! We can go to Canadia. Or Boston or something. It'll be grand...You know the cookies are a given. They are ALWAYS a given. You could dump me tomorrow and you'd still get the cookies. Boston..shit, wherever dyke weddings were legalized. And where better to rub their little piggie noses in how bad they suck than right on their doorstep? What are they gonna do? Be jealous of you? Stare furiously at your tah-tahs? Not willingly give you cookies, but instead begrudgingly give you their cookies? Woman, time to wake up to the powers you wield - Uschi
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The BBC has already told the Times of London that whatever fate awaited Tom and Jerry would also apply to its corncob-pipe-smoking cartoon import, Popeye.
Turner is now going over it's entire catalog of cartoons including The Flintstones and other Hanna-Barbera cartoons to edit out the scenes with smoking. Seems as though they're actually going to paint over any cigarettes, cigars, and pipes in these cartoons.
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In other words: Tom lighting up a cigar is out. Jerry whacking Tom over the head with mallets, axes and lawnmowers is in.
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Everytime someone posts a thread about corporations doing ANYthing that may seem the slightest bit controversial, the normal outcry from posters occurs that it's unreasonable, ridiculous, and basically bullshit. As, you know, they should. And as, you know, expected. Otherwise, there's no point in posting the article here in the first place, because if it didn't cause some kind of reaction, it would be pointless. What I find highly amusing, however, is seeing how long it takes for someone to come into the thread and drop "the bomb" of an explanation that whatever has occurred is, in some way, profitable and beneficial to the corporation doing it. No. Fucking. Shit. Einstein. As if there were EVER any other explanation to it. As if this were some enlightening moment for all of us, that may have originally believed martians were behind it, because, you know, our simple minds cannot possibly work out that it might have to do with money. OF COURSE it's about money! OF COURSE it's about the "bottom line"! D'UH!Was the entire point of creating threads like these simply to remind us of that point? If not, then, of course everyone is going to express some form of outrage and discomfort over the point, even though (and watch this carefully)... even though...they already know it's all about money. GASP!!! SHOCK!!! AWE!! No! It can't be!! Say it ain't so!! That's impossible! People that express shock, outrage, or discomfort cannot possibly understand why things must occur. They can only react with emotion and wait for more rational and intelligent people to come along to explain it to them. How can this be happening? Why would a business do anything at all? Someone, please...please enlighten us as to the cause! This post brought to you by The Foundation of Redundancy
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I stopped reading that about two sentences in.
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Just admit you have a reading problem, and get it over with...
I refuse to take any of your posts seriously as long as you have that hippie signature.
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Everytime someone posts a thread about corporations doing ANYthing that may seem the slightest bit controversial, the normal outcry from posters occurs that it's unreasonable, ridiculous, and basically bullshit. As, you know, they should. And as, you know, expected. Otherwise, there's no point in posting the article here in the first place, because if it didn't cause some kind of reaction, it would be pointless.
What I find highly amusing, however, is seeing how long it takes for someone to come into the thread and drop "the bomb" of an explanation that whatever has occurred is, in some way, profitable and beneficial to the corporation doing it.
No.
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As if there were EVER any other explanation to it. As if this were some enlightening moment for all of us, that may have originally believed martians were behind it, because, you know, our simple minds cannot possibly work out that it might have to do with money. OF COURSE it's about money! OF COURSE it's about the "bottom line"! D'UH!
Was the entire point of creating threads like these simply to remind us of that point? If not, then, of course everyone is going to express some form of outrage and discomfort over the point, even though (and watch this carefully)...even though...they already know it's all about money.
GASP!!! SHOCK!!! AWE!! No! It can't be!! Say it ain't so!! That's impossible! People that express shock, outrage, or discomfort cannot possibly understand why things must occur. They can only react with emotion and wait for more rational and intelligent people to come along to explain it to them.
How can this be happening? Why would a business do anything at all? Someone, please...please enlighten us as to the cause!
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I suppose you'll call this "sarcasm," but its sounds cranky instead...
Dear, sweet Harley Kwink...I'm madly in love with you. Marry me! We can go to Canadia. Or Boston or something. It'll be grand...You know the cookies are a given. They are ALWAYS a given. You could dump me tomorrow and you'd still get the cookies. Boston..shit, wherever dyke weddings were legalized. And where better to rub their little piggie noses in how bad they suck than right on their doorstep? What are they gonna do? Be jealous of you? Stare furiously at your tah-tahs? Not willingly give you cookies, but instead begrudgingly give you their cookies? Woman, time to wake up to the powers you wield - Uschi
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