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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
...sticking a shit-smeared penis in his mouth to be "normal" complaining about Rudy


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For someone who tries to deny who he is, you seem to like reminding everyone of what you do.

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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
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...sticking a shit-smeared penis in his mouth to be "normal" complaining about Rudy


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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
For someone who tries to deny who he is, you seem to like reminding everyone of what you do.

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
...sticking a shit-smeared penis in his mouth to be "normal" complaining about Rudy


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Obviously, someone (Kabul Zick) doesn't want the truth to come out here.





















About the New York Times I mean.








That's why he keeps talking about his love for the cock and his off topic obsession with Rudy's personal life

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
...sticking a shit-smeared penis in his mouth to be "normal" complaining about Rudy


I have no problem talking about you guys trying to get the Times. I don't really care what you sexually fantasize about either. If you want to concentrate on chipping away at the Time's reputation though then why stick posts in attacking me personally & not expect me not to reply back?


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I honestly don't see what the big deal is about the "Times". It's no different than something the NY Post would do.

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 Originally Posted By: Kabul Zick

If you want to concentrate on chipping away at the Time's reputation though then why stick posts in attacking me personally & not expect me not to reply back?


As I recall, you made clear in word and deed that you approve of editing post titles on a regular basis to be something completely non-descriptive to the subject at hand.

I'm just joining in the fun you started.

As for your other observation, as I've noted long before now, I think the law is a bad law. Thefore, I think the Times should fight it. I just think we should be consistent and not base enforcement on whether the group at issue is conservative or liberal.

I also think, and I've mentioned this before also, that a newspaper is the last organization that should ever be calling for someone else to be censored.

In the past, you've been willing to admit a certain level of discomfort with liberals trying to censor others. I can respect that.

Here, we have something related, in that we have a popular "liberal" newspaper seemingly bending the rules for a group they favor. I would like to think that, if you really believed in "Fair Play," you could be a mensch here and realize that the Times, or someone on their staff, probably fucked up.

Instead, you'd rather edit thread titles and engage in yet-another round of Rudy-bashing.

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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
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...sticking a shit-smeared penis in his mouth to be "normal" complaining about Rudy


I have no problem talking about you guys trying to get the Times. I don't really care what you sexually fantasize about either. If you want to concentrate on chipping away at the Time's reputation though then why stick posts in attacking me personally & not expect me not to reply back?


So you don't really have a problem with my replying back to your personal attacks.


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I honestly don't see what the big deal is about the "Times". It's no different than something the NY Post would do.


It would honestly bother me if they did indeed do what there being accussed of. Those accussations need to be proven first though. That's not being unreasonable IMHO.


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Advertising Age is now reporting that the Times did the right thing and gave Rudy the same rate that MoveOn.org got. Good for the Times.

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That was old news. Rudy used his ad time to also attack Hillary.


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The nerve of him. Doesn't he realize that Democrat politicians should never be criticized, especially when they are running for President?

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Actually I think it's good that he's going after Hillary. When she's done with him he'll wish he had stuck to pissing off firefighters & the ground zero workers.


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I think Rudy's smart enough not to let her take him to a park with a forged suicide note.... if that's what you're implying.

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Sigh, I'm sure whenever he keels over from a Viagra overdose with whoever he's married to at the time, partisan nutjobs will also blame her for that one too.


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I’m obviously not a huge John McCain fan, but he gets a big ‘heh’ for saying MoveOn.org should be “thrown out of this country.”

Never happen, of course. It’s a George Soros enterprise.

But you go, John.

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I thought what moveon.org did was pretty crappy myself. It's not a group I care for.


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Man... reading this thread is like watching sound bites from O'Reilley factor and Hannity's radio show.

nothing but inflammatory sloganeering.

I'm surprised the word "leftist" hasn't appeared yet.

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 Originally Posted By: Matter-eater Man
I thought what moveon.org did was pretty crappy myself. It's not a group I care for.


And, yet, you went out of your way to retitle the thread to excise a reference to the very group (liberal group) you claim not to care for.

Must be more of that "fair play" we keep hearing about

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
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I thought what moveon.org did was pretty crappy myself. It's not a group I care for.


And, yet, you went out of your way to retitle the thread to excise a reference to the very group (liberal group) you claim not to care for.

Must be more of that "fair play" we keep hearing about

the thread title was originally about the swift boat groups and had nothing to do with moveon.org
he merely put it back to it's original line of discussion unlike the man who renamed it to attack moveon


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 Originally Posted By: Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man

the thread .... had nothing to do with moveon.org


Not true. Both the Swift Boat Vets and MoveOn were the subjects of the investigation and fines referenced in the original article.

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I completely missed this mini-"scandal" but I caught a sound bite from MSNBC over at "Crooks and Liars" right now.

man, judging rom the clip, it's a prety weak grasping at straws moment. Tell me where I'm wrong:

Giuliani Sr. campaign advisor smacked down by Contessa Brewer of MSNBC

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From the same page; Hillary's response to this yawn fest.

Hillary responds to the children:

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“Rudy Giuliani is dropping in the polls and is unable to defend his own support for George Bush’s failed war. Instead of distorting Senator Clinton’s record in the campaign’s first attack ad, the Mayor should tell voters why he thinks sticking with the Bush Iraq strategy makes sense. The country wants change and while Hillary Clinton is focused ending the war, Mayor Giuliani is playing politics.”

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I thought what moveon.org did was pretty crappy myself. It's not a group I care for.


And, yet, you went out of your way to retitle the thread to excise a reference to the very group (liberal group) you claim not to care for.

Must be more of that "fair play" we keep hearing about


I think most people can understand why I changed your title "Re: MoveOn.org, related groups, to pay big fines (C. Zick: Baby Rapist?) "

I just switched it back to the original post title.


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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
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the thread .... had nothing to do with moveon.org


Not true. Both the Swift Boat Vets and MoveOn were the subjects of the investigation and fines referenced in the original article.

you're so full of shit. you edited my post there to take out the part that you can't really argue.


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so full of shit... my post... you can't really argue.




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New York Times Public Editor Rebukes MoveOn.org's Petraeus Ad

  • The New York Times acknowledged Sunday that a controversial advertisement attacking Gen. David Petraeus, the American commander in Iraq, was sold to a liberal activist group at a discount rate the organization was not entitled to receive, and that the paper violated its own advertising policies when it published the ad.

    In a column published Sunday entitled, "Betraying Its Own Best Interests," Times Public Editor Clark Hoyt wrote that after reviewing the Times' policies regarding the sale and content of advertisements and conducting his own investigation of the matter, "I think the ad violated the Times' own written standards, and the paper now says that the advertiser got a price break it was not entitled to."


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If that's the case then the person responsable for giving the discount needs to be fired.


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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
New York Times Public Editor Rebukes MoveOn.org's Petraeus Ad

  • The New York Times acknowledged Sunday that a controversial advertisement attacking Gen. David Petraeus, the American commander in Iraq, was sold to a liberal activist group at a discount rate the organization was not entitled to receive, and that the paper violated its own advertising policies when it published the ad.

    In a column published Sunday entitled, "Betraying Its Own Best Interests," Times Public Editor Clark Hoyt wrote that after reviewing the Times' policies regarding the sale and content of advertisements and conducting his own investigation of the matter, "I think the ad violated the Times' own written standards, and the paper now says that the advertiser got a price break it was not entitled to."


Click here to read the full column at The New York Times.com.


did the story have Nelson in it originally, or did you alter a news article to reflect your personal views and then post it as if it were still the real news article?
how the hell do you expect us to trust you?
this on top of your many many lies and years of bullshit....:(


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I didn't know where to post this so if a mod wants to create a new thread or movie it to where this may have been discussed previously, go ahead...




Court finds bloggers not liable for anonymous jerks who post in their comments

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Bloggers cannot be hit with libel suits on the basis of anonymous postings on their Web sites because federal law grants them immunity by explicitly stating that they cannot be treated as the "publisher" of such comments, a federal judge has ruled........... (the rest is dry and lawyerly as fuck)


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