Personally, I think the Elisa bashing that goes on here gets old. Its just one of those things that, like so many things here, we all run into the ground. And, to be honest, its a little too much like a dirtier variation on some sort of "he man women's hater club," right out of Spanky and Our Gang comedies of seventy years ago.
However, with that being said, I have to defend Pappas here. First, he's far from the worst offender on that front. Second, while PJP likes to give shit and trash talk, if he thinks he's crossed a line, he's the first guy here to be man enough and own up to it.
As for the rest of this thread, geezus fuck, how many fucking threads do we need parroting the exact same points?
Fucking other guys is a behavior, whether or not its genetic. Furthermore, as noted on a thread I started about nueroscience and the law, there are some scientists who think every behavior is genetic, including criminal. So do we give every behavior a pass just because its genetic?
That's one hell of a slippery slope.
At the same time, whether or not its genetic, unless the behavior is being rubbed in someone else's face (no pun intended), what's the fucking harm?
Oh? Its a sin? Great. If you believe that, you believe that the gays are going to hell anyway and that's the job of God and the Devil to deal with them. Let them go, what do you care? They won't be up in heaven with you having gay pride parades through the Pearly Gates, will they?
The bottom line here is that there's not a behavior on earth that some people don't think is appropriate and other people don't think is inappropriate. That's why we have laws. That's why we have elections. That's why we have debates.
So stop worrying about whether its genetic or whether its a sin. Decide if its cost to society is too much to allow it and then decide if its feasible to impose penalities on it. If yes, do something. If not, leave them alone.
Goddam.