Quote: klinton said: Quoting the Talmud as equal to the Bible is wrong ('do not add nor take away from scripture...yadda yadda').
If he's referencing the Torah as a source, then he's speaking more as a Jew than as a Christian. So it's not very fair to say that his generalization of the Bible's argument is unsuitable for his use since the Bible does include the Old Testament.
On that note, I think Brad made the best argument regarding this issue at the beginning of the thread in regards to a person's perseverance. For the sake of one's spiritual well-being, a person should be able to forego their more detrimental urges even if it buys them a temporary happiness. I say this while keeping in mind that people can be "happy" for a lot of different reasons, good and bad. Even if a person thinks or feels the reason is good, that doesn't mean it qualifies as such. As I've pointed out repeatedly throughout my RKMB career, I think the homosexual community is what most suffers from this delusion. The way they regularly reason carrying out their urges is a detriment to their health and other people's as well. What confuses me is why they'd feel the need to do what they do; last I checked, the sincerest demonstration of love was companionship, not simply physical action that damages your body. I just don't see how that can be passed off as affection.
Anywho, even if I were to believe that homosexuals were designed homosexual, I see that as more of a test of physical and spiritual attrition than I do as something natural and normal. Because so many people here would cry foul, I usually choose not to use this kind of reasoning, but I feel it has merit none the less. It reminds of a person I met at a cloister adjacent to my church. There's a priest there who was diagnosed as a socio-path and he admits to having trouble sorting out the right and the wrong of the world even though he does believe in the Catholic philosophy. He admitted once that it's because he was raised with that philosophy that he was able to stave off urges of harming others. While his impulses don't revolve around murder, when he thinks about that kind of subject it's hard for him to find wrong in it.
