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harleykwin said:
Now I'm nursing the mother of all hangovers - seriously, I feel awful, tho that could also be from all the moola I've lost it's hard to count to "21" when things get blurry! - and am the only person not sleeping at the moment, so I popped in here...



I like the Bogart approach of just getting drunk again...

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Knutreturns said:
K im somewhat confused...I know that i had posted about Sam that his "enemy" had produced evidence that he was a rat (it was fake by the way) but Harley had posted that it was Leigh that gave this evidence to Viv. Does that mean that she was working for this guy?



Could be. Or it may be interpreted that Leigh had heard of Sam's 'betrayal' and thought it was genuine as well.



Y'know, Knut, I caught that after I posted it too, and I wasn't sure which way it was gonna play out. Still not sure, though I understand it may not be up to me to decide.



I kind of like the idea of Leigh working with Ramos for a little while -- perhaps she was the agent for informing Vivian? But that's only if everyone else is cool with it.

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Also, since we seem to clarify things in this thread - I'm a bit confused about something too. It's been implied that Leigh and Seth were lovers at one point, but then Seth says that they've never played this game w each other before. So, which is it? Were they or weren't they?

Like I said in an earlier post, I don't have a problem with that angle, but only if it provides a motive or forwards the story in some way. I just don't want Leigh - or Vivian for that matter - to be painted as tramps "just because."



They're morally loose in every other way...

But yeah, I get what your getting at. Honestly, play it however you want. Personally, I like the idea of Leigh flirting with Seth, simply because I'm sure it would piss Vivian off more. Which would make Seth and Leigh pretty happy. And I could sort of believe Seth would do that on purpose just to make Vivian jealous (in fact, that's why I had Vivian get her cigarettes from Sam -- sort of a way to dig into Seth).

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Also, I don't know how it usually works in group writing, but can I suggest that Redjack and Leigh have some kind of relationship that isn't totally about betrayal? They are brother and sister afterall and I would like to think she isn't completely heartless. If I had the time I would write it myself, and if no one wants to tackle it I will when I get back in a few.



Actually, you make a good point. While completely evil villians are okay sometimes, I think we're going for something a little more complex. And I think it's quite a good idea to have Leigh (or anyone) have someone that they're capable of keeping promises with. That's what makes them more interesting. So go ahead, make Redjack and Leigh trust each other. I'm all for it.

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Again, I don't mean to step on peoples toes if this is not how things are done in this forum. Its only a suggestion, but if there is some sort of protacol about how thing work here, please let me know.



Oh, this is pretty much how we do things. If we didn't communicate, everone's egos would get in the way. Plus, as we've already discovered, being subtle doesn't work here very well.

And don't be afraid to PM a particular person if you want to work on something. I already PMed Grimm about a few things, because I do want some suspense for everyone.

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You guys have done phenomenal job - I like the addition of Ramos and the backstory give. Excellent, CJ.



Thanks! I figured since this was my idea, I should come up with a villian we can tackle. Not the greatest I've done (but for some reason he reminds me of the fat guy in Casablanca, so maybe I'll give him a blue parrot). Throwing Ramos in can move the story forward, and I'm all about that.

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