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Did we see the same movie?

Seriously.

The only thing that I might agree with you is that Sandman was superfluous. And even that wasn’t enough to detract from my enjoyment of the movie. As for Stan Lee’s cameo – it’s Stan Lee for fuck’s sake! His cameo is s’posed to come with a big vat ‘o cheese. That cannot seriously be considered a legitimate gripe.



I don't have an issue with a Stan Lee cameo per se. But put that together with the ridiculous shot of Spider-Man in front of the American flag and that ridiculous "Key To The City" ceremony and every other forced, rushed, wasteful, heavy-handed thing about this flick and the Stan Lee cameo just becomes another eye-rolling moment.



We're just gonna have to agree to disagree on most of this.


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As for MJ and Pete’s drama – I completely disagree with you. I thought it made totally sense, and to me, it did not seem forced at all. The angle with Harry and the jealousy also worked well and was in line with the comics- as was his death. The whole symbiote lead up was well done, even if the Venom part seemed a little rushed. And as NWM said, was there a body? No. And this is comic books for crying out loud – like a comic book death is ever permanent. I honestly can’t believe that so many of you found so many faults with this movie and found no enjoyment from it whatsoever.



The whole drama was forced and rushed, mostly because Sam had so much stuff to work in that he never gave himself the chance to develop anything fully. MJ's jealousy (towards Peter AND towards Gwen) is almost completely illogical - she comes off as a complete bitch, particularly if you saw the first two flicks and remember how much shit Peter goes through in them.



I see it very differently. I didn't think MJ came off as a "bitch" at all. What she was feeling seemed completely plausible and in no way contrived. I don't see how watching the first two flicks would change that.

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Harry's little plan to attack Peter was brilliantly done but, again, it deserves its own movie. Either do Venom or do Green Goblin 2, but don't do both AND shoehorn in Sandman for no reason (besides a CG budget that allows for it).

I've already addressed Venom's death/"death". Whether he's really dead or just fake dead is moot. It's a waste of a character and lazy writing. There are ways to end a superhero movie that DOESN'T involve killing the villain.

What can I tell you? It was forty-five minutes of rambling plot disguised as "set-up" followed by an hour and fifteen minutes



Again, let's agree to disagree.

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of scrambling to a conclusion that was disappointing and unsatisfying, kinda like what sex with Nowhereman must be like, minus an hour and fifty-five minutes (oooh, snap!).



That you know what sex with NWM is like says it all. Why you felt the need to air the dirty sexual laundruy between you two is... disturbing...

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Can you honestly say you thought that the butler's "big revelation" was anything but deus ex machina designed to force a team-up that under no other circumstances would happen?



I said earlier that I thought it was bit of a WTF moment. Pay attention, reax!

Still didn't take away from my enjoyment of this movie, though.


Dear, sweet Harley Kwink...I'm madly in love with you. Marry me! We can go to Canadia. Or Boston or something. It'll be grand...You know the cookies are a given. They are ALWAYS a given. You could dump me tomorrow and you'd still get the cookies. Boston..shit, wherever dyke weddings were legalized. And where better to rub their little piggie noses in how bad they suck than right on their doorstep? What are they gonna do? Be jealous of you? Stare furiously at your tah-tahs? Not willingly give you cookies, but instead begrudgingly give you their cookies? Woman, time to wake up to the powers you wield - Uschi