Nah, doc...I still likes ya. Nobody makes s'mores quite like you.
What happens at Lake Winnibigoshish, stays at Lake Winnibigoshish!
Originally Posted By: THE Bastard
It's not about comprehension for me. I was more about divining intentions. The quote from you, at first read seemed to be that you were using his past marital isssues as a possible reason/excuse/justification for his behavior. You wrote at the beginning:
"More info that might put this into perspective."
My interpretation of that line was this: Here's something that may be a reason why Chris did what he did. I did not click on the link and read the article. I don't know the context of the quote you lifted. If you'd posted the whole article, I probably wouldn't have read it. But...because you posted that little snippet that says Chris killed his wife, his kid and himself then goes on to mention he had marriage problems, my question is this: what does one have to do with the other unless the marriage problems are being used as mitigating circumstances to the murders?
Are the words yours? No. It's a quote. But you chose them to "put perspective" on the situation. Now, you are not required to explain yourself to me but, I'm just wondering how that quote made things clearer. Maybe it does for a fan of the guy but, not someone like me...who had no idea the guy existed before 3 days ago.
I wasn't using it as a motivation of his behavior, but trying to put the killings into the perspective of his past behavior with his wife. There were issues that no one had previously touched, or even known about concerning his relationship with his family. It wasn't "She tried to divorce him, so he killed the bitch" but more of "There is a past history between his wife that indicates that this may haven't have been so 'out of the blue'".
Originally Posted By: THE Bastard
As far as me "taking on" you guys about this...honestly I'm just not that interested in the subject. I haven't looked at any of the video tributes or read any of the long testimonials some have posted to Benoit. I never read the wrestling stuff in this forum before now cuz I'm not interested. This case has my attention only because it's now a big mainstream story.
I'll often come to the boards and see what people have to say about things that I might otherwise have no interest in but, become big or exposed enough to hit my radar. This is no different. I just wanted to see what the opinions of wrestling fans was on this tragedy...that and it was 2:00 am and I didn't feel like looking for porn so I figured i'd read this stuff.
Seriously, I underestimated the level of devotion you guys have to this sport. It seems to me like it appraoches NASCAR levels of rabid fandom. You guys are really taking this hard and I am not shitting on anybody's grief. If you know me at all you should know that is not my style. I just can't relate. I'm a football and basketball fan. If this happened in the context of my favorite sports, I'd be shocked if say...Peyton Manning or LeBron James...were to do what Benoit did. But, I wouldn't have the level of grief that you guys do. I wouldn't be looking for reasons to explain the incident to myself.
I'd say something like "Damn, that's fucked up", Be riveted to the TV for a couple of hours and then go get a sandwich. My point is, it wouldn't affect me personally like this situation has affected you guys.
Grimm's post went a long way towards explaining the mindset of the fans here. I think I get where most of you are coming from now.
Once again, in case I didn't make it clear earlier:
NO DISRESPECT INTENDED. I'm just trying to understand why this is so important to you guys. I'm not trolling for trouble like yer boy, G-man.
I'm not that dude.
Understandable. But when you make statements like "wrestling if fake" or talk about how we only know his "character on TV", you're coming off as a bit of a dick. It'd be like me pointing to C3PO while we're watching Star Wars and saying, "You know that's not really a robot, right? It's just some dude in a costume." You're coming off as though you were the smarter one for realizing that when we understand the concept 100 times better than you. It's better, especially if you're admitting that you're not a wrestling fan, to ask questions rather than to assume what's going on and trying to tell people what they mean with their own words.
You really did just step off the deep end into the middle of a discussion that's really been going on with most of the people here long before Benoit. Just check and see what's been happening the past few years or so with Mike Awesome, Bam Bam Bigelow, Eddie Guerrero, and others to see what I'm talking about.
whomod said: I generally don't like it when people decide to play by the rules against people who don't play by the rules. It tends to put you immediately at a disadvantage and IMO is a sign of true weakness. This is true both in politics and on the internet."
