Originally Posted By: the G-man
To some extent, the producers are causing this problem by retelling the origins. They might be better off just telling good stories about Batman, the Joker, et al.


 Originally Posted By: Friendly Neighborhood Ray-man
because for the movies to get good reviews and feedback and be appealing to non-comic readers they can't just throw the joker in with no explanation. maybe in a tv series where a bad episode can be redeemed next week, but not in a movie.


I disagree. Batman and Joker are well enough known that you can do a movie and people "get" who they are without retelling their origins.