the only people I have ever seen complain about the organic webshooters were comic fans. it never bothered me as I saw it was being more logical than Peter being able to create something like that, but not being able to create other ideas to make his (and his family's) life easier. but again, this is largely an intarweb debate.
The point was that it did mildly bother some people simply for contradicting the little they know about the character, which is an example of the mentality I'm talking about.
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now we will have to disagree about From Dusk Till Dawn being a hit, because I know quite a few people (hell, it's one of my personal favorite movies) that enjoy it quite a lot. but I also know quite a few people that didn't like the switchover and would've been perfectly happy with just another Tarantino crime film. but it still did good business.
It surpassed it's own budget, which is decent business, but by no means was it a hit. A movie like that, as good as it may be, can never be a hit because it presents itself as something and it turns out to be something else. People don't like to feel "cheated".
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it could. we'll never know until we get there. that's why it's foolish to spend so much time worrying about "trends". they should worry more about simply crafting a good film. but what the hell do I know?
A well crafted film will stand the test of time, but that's not what the studios want. The studios want a good theatric run. If a movie is good, the same people who hated it when it first came out might eventually come to appreciate it later, but that doesn't matter in the least to the studios. They don't care if they have a classic in their hands: if the box office numbers disappoint, it's considered a 'failure'.
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"that jewish group?" "no, sir, that's the JDL?" points if you catch that one.
Either Manga Kahn or Wally's mom.
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they might, they might not. assuming they do have that notion, and the so-called "Big Seven", are they going to expect John Stewart and Hawkgirl or Kyle/Hal and Aquaman? I see a lot of John Stewart showing on fanmade youtube trailers.
Eh, as long as people recognize the name and the powers, they might as well have G'nort as GL and no one will get upset.
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but it also doesn't exclude him becoming part of it, either. had he been more prominently placed in the show, he would've been in a better position to do so. A better example I would think would be John Stewart, who before the animated series was mostly thought of as "that jewish guy that replaced Craig Kilborne on the Daily Show." but now GL John Stewart has a much higher profile in the eye of the public. there's no reason to think that had Mr. Terrific been featured similarly that he couldn't also have that.
Again: the show isn't a factor. Most people who will see the movie have never seen the show, because it's stupid. It's the exact same concept as the movie, but it's stupid because it's animated. The same goes for X-Men: that name said nothing to most people before the first movie came out, because they don't watch cartoons and they certainly don't read no fucking comic books (COME ON). Of course they didn't care who was in X-Men: they didn't know the X-Men! At most they were aware that it was some stupid cartoon that's been turned not stupid by adapting it into a movie.
The Justice League concept is well known not because of the cartoon or even superfriends, but because it's a simple, archetypical idea. Big superheroes get together. That's easy to understand, easy to explain, and easy to retain, so it's found it's way into popular culture. That's why it's a concept the movie can't afford to betray (again: assuming its purpose is making big bucks and not being a trascendental film).
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then why is Joel Schumacher still alive and allowed to make films? I'll just quote Bill Hicks here and say "If you're in marketing, please kill yourself."
When has Joel Schumacher done anything but give people what they expect?
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please don't give them ideas. success can take many forms, young Mxy. most of which monolithic studios and record companies are still largely oblivious to and mystified by.
Occasionally, studios can be daring and try new things. But they're not gonna take that risk with a well-known concept, because the prospect of milking it for as much money as they can is too tempting. They COULD make a great JLA movie with only little-known characters in the roster, but they'd piss off a lot of the initial audience by doing so, and the movie would be a 'failure'.
