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Have you actually read the rest of this thread?
Ya know, the thread where the fan boys are saying its gonna be a shit film without them?


Maybe, but I don't think that's indicative of the general geek-response. Fanboy opinions depend on very subjective stuff. For example, everyone hated the Transformers movie before it came out, because of how the characters looked. After it came out, everyone loved it again. In the case of the JLA, I think all they need to do is give a obscure character a chance to shine onscreen, and every geek out there will get chills down their spine.

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By that assumption, they think its naturally gonna be a great movie with them.
This is where your arguments end up contradictory.


At what point, in which post, or even in which page of this thread, did ever write or even suggest that the movie would be great without minor characters? I'm not talking about the quality of the film here: I think it's silly to judge that based on the roster! I'm talking about the response it's gonna get, which is an entirely different subject. I love many movies everyone hates.

Is that the whole contradictory part of my argument? Something I never said? Or is there anything else?

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The argument me and Grimm have had with Pro, is that it does not have to have Batman etc, and we are saying thats just fan boy wank material, and he says it will be shit without them and wont be JLA.


Then I disagree with Pro in that matter. :0

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You then say Grimm is talking shit because he thinks a film will survive without them, then say fanboys will be happy to see the lesser characters..........err, thats what me and Grimm have been saying!


First of all, I don't think Grimm is talking shit. I don't think you're talking shit either. You're free to think there are huge turds coming out of my mouth, but I respect your opinion. Even if you're wrong.

Secondly, for the third time, a mainstream film can't survive only on fanboy response, because that's an incredibly limited part of the audience. Whether the fanboys like it or not is practically irrelevant to what I'm arguing.

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As for your thing about word of mouth.......you show me those statistics.
Cause Hollywood sure hasnt seen those statistics, cause if they had, they would not spend so much on their advertising budgets!


The whole film industry is based on word of mouth. A movie that gets a good response from the audience, no matter how great the ad campaign may be, will never be a hit. On the other hand, a movie with a limited release (like Borat, for example) or a poor ad campaign, can become a hit if the audience response is positive.

Why does this happen? How does the guy who liked the movie get other people to watch it? Does he put a billboard on top of his house saying "I LIKED THE MOVIE"? Does he rent ad space in a newspaper? Critics do something similar, but then again there are hundreds of cases of movies the critics loved and the audience hated. How does it happen, then? Does the guy telepathically inform everyone around him that the movie is good? No, he says "Hey, that's a good movie".

You know, we're all used to bullshitting each other when we debate here (after all, this is a message board), but I'm not making any of this up on the spot. I don't know this shit because I'm smarter than anyone, I know it because I had to take a fucking test about it. But hey, what the hell, I'll Google "word of mouth stats" if that's what you want me to do. Here's a random link from the first page:

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Top 11 Stats on Word of Mouth

1) 67% of all consumer decisions are primarily influenced by word of mouth

2) 1 out of every 7 social conversations are word of mouth based

3) Only 3.4% of face to face word of mouth conversations are stimulated by a marketing organization's promotional efforts

4) 90% of customers identify word of mouth as the best, most reliable and trustworthy source about ideas and information on products and services

5) 44% of consumers claim to avoid buying products that overwhelm them with advertising

6) Where does word of mouth happen? Answer: Everywhere.

7) On product recommendations, 90% trust their spouse and 65% trust their friends, however only 27% trust manufacturers, 14% trust advertisers and 8% trust celebrities


And so on and so on.

I could continue Googling for more stats, or I could track down the papers I had to read for class... but, eh, I get the feeling none of that would change your opinion.