Yeah, I'm sure that hasn't changed at all in four decades.
well wondy claims it's all one big conspiracy going back to FDR and welfare.
That's a total lie.
I've again and again said that liberalism went insanely anti-American in the early 1960s, with Supreme Court rulings without precedent banning prayer in schools, and the "war on poverty" which far beyond the desired goal of racial equality and equal access to jobs and education, established racial quotas and a lower standard for minorities (which has done more to perpetuate racial division than anything else), and has inadvertantly through its short-sightedness stifled integration and assimilation, encouraged teenage pregnancy and single moms, and burdened us with the entitlements of a very costly welfare state.
In the topic where we were supposed to say something good about the opposing party (about a year ago) I said that sometimes a liberal solution is the best solution, and I gave examples of child labor laws, unions to get rights, benefits, decent pay and safety for previously unrepresented workers, social security, and F.D. Roosevelt's programs to create jobs that built roads, bridges, power facilities and infrastructure in a time when a third of Americans were out of work.
Truman's integrating blacks into a de-segregated military in 1948 was also a very admirable move, well executed.
Kennedy I see as possibly having the best speech writers of any president, but who I think gets credit for being a greater president than he was. The Berlin Wall went up under Kennedy. The Bay of Pigs invasion was botched under Kennedy. Multiple assassination attempts were made on Castro under Kennedy and failed (and a theory of the Kennedy assassination is that it was retribution for attempts on Castro). A U-2 spy plane was shot down while Kennedy was president, resulting in humiliating negotiations with the Russians to get the captured U.S. pilot back, and denials of U.S. spying that were clearly false. The Mafia were likely involved in rigging the 1960 election that Kennedy won (the mafia were unquestionably involved in getting Robert Kennedy elected Senator of New York). Kennedy was in poor health, and at times very impaired in his ability to act as president (Addison's Disease, which if he were not shot, would have likely killed him before the end of his term.) And ultimately, the weakness of JFK's foreign policy in Berlin, Bay of Pigs and the U-2 incident, elboldened the Russians to what became the Cuban Missile Crisis, which took the world as close as it's ever been to all-out nuclear war. That arguably never would have escalated to that level, if not for Kennedy's repeated weakness against the Russians.
Kennedy also sent the first military advisors, in what escalated to full-scale U.S. involvement in Vietnam.
Even the civil rights quotas, bean-counting and welfare-state legislation passed in 1965 was largely drafted from Kennedy's vision and passed posthumously in his name.
So forgive me if I'm not overly moved by Kennedy's definition of liberalism quoted above. Feel-good rhetoric, but totally meaningless. Kennedy was the beginning of the form of liberalism I despise, and recognize to be destructive to this nation.
There are a few select liberals I admire and have named often (Ralph Nader, Joseph Biden, Christoper Dodd, Joseph Lieberman, and Byron Dorgan to name a few), on a few populist issues: labor, affordable education and health-care issues. When their best intentions are aimed at providing for working Americans, I can agree with and admire liberal Democrats.
But far more often, liberal Democrats are the ultimate special interest party, who promote atheism, abortion, gay rights, minority favoritism, the removal of prayer, the Bible, and even the 10 Commandments from schools and courts and public buildings(the Biblical principles this nation was founded on!), even as liberals simultaneously advocate the teaching of Islam (the religion of our enemy) in our schools, and have obstructed education into a politically correct (i.e., anti-American) version of American History that undermines nationalism and patriotism.
The major thrust of liberalism I see as destructive and in opposition to what is best for America, a majority of liberal Democrats who I see as constantly in opposition to U.S. national interests domestically and abroad, and constantly seeking to splinter this country along racial, ethnic and class lines for their own political gain, with inflammatory and divisive rhetoric. To the destruction and detriment of the nation.
When I speak of liberalism negatively, this is the type of liberalism I refer to: socialist, racially divisive, pandering to special interests, elitist, and ultimately anti-American, whether they even realize it or not. Liberals who are so filled with spite that they calculate winning battles against their political opposition by campaigning against America. Where basically, anyone who believes in preserving America and protecting American interests is a white racist. Anyone who believes in Judao-Christian values is "intolerant" and "a bigot".
It's a liberalism that is based on intolerance of anyone who disagrees with their self-proclaimed truth (even as they demonize and bemoan the intolerance of conservatives who may disagree with them but will at least let them speak), and there are no rules, no evil these liberals won't sink to, to slander and harass their opposition into silence.
Case in point with your vicious rhetoric, Ray.
