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 Originally Posted By: "batman-on-film.com"
According to a report in COMIC BOOK RESOURCES, DC will kill off Bruce Wayne and one of the "Robins" will replace him as Batman come summer 2008. Also, BATMAN will revert back to #1, issue numbering-wise.


http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/?column=13
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THE DEATH OF A BAT

In June/July, DC are killing off Batman. Or rather, Bruce Wayne. Robin will inherit the Batman cowl. One of the Robins anyway. Tim Drake. Jason Todd. Or possibly Red Hood. Hey, maybe Jean-Paul Valley, it has been ten years since Azrael.

Either way, the book will relaunch with a nice shiny #1.

Yes, didn't Captain America miss a trick there? I'm sure Marvel will do the same come 2009.

And what of Batwoman? Well, I'm told the launch of the Rucka/Williams series has been pushed back yet again because of the movie, and fears of "unacceptable media coverage." I'm told four issues are fully completed.

Apparently it's okay for Batman to be dead, and a new character take his place when there's a movie out. But not for Batwoman to be a lesbian. At least wait till it's gone to DVD for that brunette bombshell.

I'm reminded of the Warner Bros executive instruction to Grant Morrison and Dave McKean over "Arkham Asylum," that the Joker not be seen dressing up as Madonna in case the cinema audience believed that meant Jack Nicholson was a transvestite.


That last paragraph/sentence is hilarious.


The rest is a bad joke.


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Think about it: why would they let both Superman and Bats have children at the same time? Because that universe is about to end and, in the meantime, DC wants to look risky by allowing stuff they had forbidden in the past. Betcha Barry Allen comes back right before Final Crisis. So The Bat-Man might as well die and be replaced by Alfred, cause that continuity ain't sticking around for too long.


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Gotcha. I figured it was a giant ruse. I just didn't think they'd do THAT. AGAIN.


... AGAIN again.


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That's why I'm not buying much DC until after the next final Crisis.


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If DC really were going to kill Batman, The, I think it would be a good idea to give Jean Paul another crack at it.

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The three readers who thought that Azrael was cool and a good idea.


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I'm betting less than a year before they retcon all this shit.


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 Originally Posted By: MisterJLA
If DC really were going to kill Batman, The, I think it would be a good idea to give Jean Paul another crack at it.

Sincerely,

The three readers who thought that Azrael was cool and a good idea.

Az-Bats was actually a good idea. I like his descent into insanity. But i think afterwards he should've killed himself instead of doing that aweful solo series.


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Heh.

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Lois will conceive.
Batman will die.


It doesn't matter anyways. This earth will soon fade. So DC can finally pretend to have a pair.

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Yeah, get rid of all that heavy continuity says I. That's what I like about Ultimate Marvel, the writers can pretty much do whatever they want.

So here's hoping that Superman, Batman, Flash and all the others gets rebooted to their beginnings.

There are only a few characters I like that I wouldn't mind sticking around, Tim Drake, Kyle Rayner, Supergirl, Wally West (though I'd rather have Bart Allen back again, getting rid of him was a stupid mistake) and Wondergirl. All the rest can suck cock by choice!




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Didn't Azrael die?


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 Originally Posted By: Chant
There are only a few characters I like that I wouldn't mind sticking around, Tim Drake, Kyle Rayner, Supergirl, Wally West (though I'd rather have Bart Allen back again, getting rid of him was a stupid mistake) and Wondergirl. All the rest can suck cock by choice!


But that was the problem last time. Some characters were rebooted and others stayed the same, so the new continuity was almost as convulted as the last one (even more if you consider that readers had to figure out of which previous stories counted and which didn't).

Nope, if they flush the toilet again they should make sure all the shit goes down. Which means no JSA or even Satellite JLA.


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 Originally Posted By: Chant
That's what I like about Ultimate Marvel, the writers can pretty much do whatever they want.


enjoy it while it lasts, because rumor is it's gettin blowed up, too.

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Really? Is this what Ultimate Origin is going to do?

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 Quote:

THE DEATH OF A BAT

In June/July, DC are killing off Batman. Or rather, Bruce Wayne. Robin will inherit the Batman cowl. One of the Robins anyway. Tim Drake. Jason Todd. Or possibly Red Hood. Hey, maybe Jean-Paul Valley, it has been ten years since Azrael.


They do know Todd is the Red Hood right? I call shananigans.

 Originally Posted By: whomod

Superman will kill.


He has, but Dildio retconned it.

 Originally Posted By: MisterJLA
If DC really were going to kill Batman, The, I think it would be a good idea to give Jean Paul another crack at it.

Sincerely,

Ray and the two other readers who thought that Azrael was cool and a good idea.


Fixed it for you.

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Yeah. But as in post Crisis Superman AND the Ultimate universe, part of the catch o these 'do whatever you want continuities' is that they can't help playing on nostalgia by reintroducing the same old ideas and just making them "edgier". Which most of the time end up being worse than the originals.

And that's part of the marketing. Playing on the nostalgia that they're supposedly free from. They can never resist going back to th same old thing. Remember Post-Crisis Titano?? Usually they try to attach some "realistic" scientific bullshit explanation for something that was deemed "silly" but now is supposed to be "not silly" because they use pseudoscience to explain it.

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 Originally Posted By: whomod
Yeah. But as in post Crisis Superman AND the Ultimate universe, part of the catch o these 'do whatever you want continuities' is that they can't help playing on nostalgia by reintroducing the same old ideas and just making them "edgier". Which most of the time end up being worse than the originals.


"Edgy" was done in the 90's. All that's being done now, within DC, is Silver Age stuff. It's just modernized to fit the post-IC continuity.

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This all sounds like so much bullshit to me.

Comics were very uncomplicated when I was a kid, and now, well, we've had 3 or 4 Legions, several Wonder Woman's's, and a few Supermen, too.



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 Originally Posted By: Jeremy
Really? Is this what Ultimate Origin is going to do?



it's supposed to lead into it.

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This is all gaytarded.





This Batman business.
Not the RKMBs.


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All I'm saying is if they kill off Power Girl, I'm really gonna miss all three of them.


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 Originally Posted By: Uschi
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Please stop posting pics of Rex's Christmas party.

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ANYWHO! This is why I no longer collect Modern Age shit.

btw, when is the comic industry gonna start a new age rather than readjust the years? Or do we need a five-part Crisis to deal with that as well?


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Why can't they just hire good creators who do good stories?


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 Originally Posted By: Captain Sweden
Why can't they just hire good creators who do good stories?


Because that makes too much sense.


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 Originally Posted By: Uschi
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Agreed.

Dumb. Fucking. Idea.



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It gets dumber.

According to this week's LITG, the rumored plan is for Batman to die, be reincarnated as a "New God," and go head to head vs Darkseid in the "final crisis."

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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
It gets dumber.

According to this week's LITG, the rumored plan is for Batman to die, be reincarnated as a "New God," and go head to head vs Darkseid in the "final crisis."



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Hate me for saying this, but I wouldn't have minded it so much if ALL the DC elite had died to become New Gods.

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 Originally Posted By: Uschi
Batman's gonna die


Isn't that a Replacement's song?


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 Originally Posted By: Jason E. Perkins
Hate me for saying this, but I wouldn't have minded it so much if ALL the DC elite had died to become New Gods.


If they were going to reboot the universe anyway, yeah, that's a better ending than what they're rumored to be proposing. In either event, however, I don't really like it.

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I think it's the same thing. The Bat-Man dies, oh no, Final Crisis happens, he comes back as a New New God and saves the day. The End, universe over. Not a bad ending, I think.


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 Originally Posted By: Im Not Mister Mxyzptlk
I think it's the same thing. The Bat-Man dies, oh no, Final Crisis happens, he comes back as a New New God and saves the day. The End, universe over. Not a bad ending, I think.


I don't much care for either ending, especially as it involves Batman, who is supposed to have a bit more sheen or realism than other characters.

In the quashed ending, however, at least the concept was that the "Legends" of the DCU (the big three) were being elevated to godhood. It had more of a epic feeling to the idea. Just having Batman be elevated seems like they picked the wrong character and turned a potentially epic ending into a potentially goofy one.

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I they're doing this, they should have just made Batman the new Specter last year.


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 Originally Posted By: the G-man
It gets dumber.

According to this week's LITG, the rumored plan is for Batman to die, be reincarnated as a "New God," and go head to head vs Darkseid in the "final crisis."


Dumb dumb dumb. The only way it'll be cool is if they kill each other. That way we can have a new Bruce (and possibly big seven) for the post Final Crisis continuity. And yes, I know even that sounds DUMB!!

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