RKMBs Forums .::Robegories::. Sports and Wrestling hows bout those yankees for 2007 - cuz no other team matters

Not at all. It's just depressing to me that the Yankees went from making a very bold, courageous move to back-pedaling and looking like a bunch of pussies. If they really wanted to show some balls they'd either tell A-Rod "Thanks, but no thanks" or (if they absolutely needed to have him) have offered him a contract for a yearly rate of $20 Million, just to show him and Boras who had the power. I guess I overestimated them, shame on me.

I'm well aware that a player can sign without an agent. My point was that there's no way Boras didn't know that this was going down, and there was definitely a possibility/probability that he'd try to swing this into something more to his liking. Sorry you didn't catch onto that.

As for Gagne, did it prove to be a bad move? Yup. But there were multiple teams that were playoff contenders (like Detroit and the Yankees...sorry, but it's true) that were after him because of the numbers he was starting to put together in Texas. So you're welcome in hindsight for him not coming to New York - if he couldn't thrive in Boston, he sure as shit wouldn't have lasted there.

PS: As for bad bullpen moves, paging Kyles Farnsworth...paging Kyle Farnsworth...



Martinez and Lowe, over the course of their current contracts, weren't and aren't worth the money they were paid. If either were re-signed by the Red Sox, they wouldn't have been able to trade for Josh Beckett or Lowell (the other "unnotable losers" they picked up post-Martinez/Lowe). So, again, your argument fails. Was Clement a good signing? Nope, but signing him hurt less than if they'd succeeded in signing Carl Pavano. You remember Carl Pavano, right? Yankees and Sox wanted him. Yankees won the Pavano sweepstakes. How'd that deal work out? Oh yeah...

Murphy had a bright future as a fourth outfielder and Gabbard wasn't going to be much more than a fifth starter - so I think we'll be okay without them (we managed to survive this year, you'll notice). And I suspect we'll manage without Gagne, whom the Red Sox aren't going after. Feel free to grab him; I'm sure he could be had for cheaper than Rivera will cost. By the way, $45 Million for three years of Rivera? When Francisco Cordero is available for younger and cheaper?

I want Lowell back. I'd offer him three years plus an option for $13 Million per, or a guaranteed four years at $44 Million. But I don't get to make those offers. If he signs with us, I'll be very happy. If he doesn't, I'll miss him but I'll survive with Youkilis at third and whoever they grab for first.



Are you saying you'd rather have Damon, with his declining skill set and $52 Million contract (to now play left field, if you hadn't heard), over Crisp's better speed and defense for a fraction of the cost? Okay, good luck with that, too.

Ellsbury is slotted to play center next year and for the next few years. Crisp will be traded for whatever the Sox need (believe it or not, not every team wants to pay $15 - $20 Million for Hunter or Jones) and the Sox will continue to mix free agent pick-ups with young, home-grown players. Can't see them getting Cabrera - frankly, I see Cabrera's fat ass in pinstripes, waddling into the next double play, as the Yankees mortgage away more good young pitching in hopes of having the best fantasy team ever. Damn shame he won't make anyone forget that the Yankees could've had David Ortiz in 2003 but decided to stick with Jason Giambi through 2008.

Let me remind you. Two Championships in four years versus none in seven. You can yammer on about the 26 in the 20th century, but we both know that not even your owners care about that. They're too busy trying to live down the greatest choke in MLB history while building the greatest set of overpaid underachievers since...well, since the Yankees of the 80s and early 90s.