Originally Posted By: whomod


You sound as if you have a problem with Mexicans Wonder Boy.

There are still some parts of the country I can go to where I may speak English till I turn blue but if I'm say, with my wife or family and for some reason we decide to communicate amongst ourselves in Spanish, I'll still receive indignant looks as I've committed some unpardonable crime.

It used to happen a lot to me back in the 1970's and my neck of the woods was still primarily Caucasian. Now, not so much as people here actually respect differences and in my experience are eager to learn about other cultures other than their own. Thank goodness for "white flight" I say. It tends to weed out the intolerant xenophobes.

It's not so much that some people want others to assimilate, they want others to completely obliterate any semblance of ethnicity lest their delicate ears hear a foreign tongue and they turn to stone. And it wasn't a desire to make one "assimilate", in my experience among people like this, it was a desire to make ones heritage appear inferior and worthy of obliteration.

As for Garcia being more common, good. I can't number the many times some asshole, either back in school or else in my working life that has changed my name to something more Caucasian sounding to put THEMSELVES at ease. Everything else about me told them "like me" except my name and they were all too eager to fix that as if it needed to be fixed.

Which is why I give you a hard time Wondy. Because I know your type from years of experience and I'm having none of it. One of the benefits of living in California is that except for the occasional incursion into the affluent westside where experiences with minorities goes as far as the maid or gardener (and it's reflected in the films and shows these people sometimes produce), I really don't have to put up with xenophobe crap anymore.

Did I tell you that the company I work for had some techs from (90% caucasian) Rhode Island visit us last year to upgrade our systems company-wide? I had the distinct pleasure of visiting several sites where these techs were at work. They looked as pissed off and miserable that Mexicans actually looked them in the eye and demanded acknowledgement and parity that they almost without fail rudely refused to give anyone that wasn't Caucasian or Asian. And they absolutely looked as if they were seething when people would speak Spanish. Best fucking month of my life. Wish it could have been you Wonder Boy. Wish it could have been you......


None of what you said here even begins to answer the legitimate complaints I have about rampant hispanic immigration, their contempt for white America, and their forming a hispanic colony inside the U.S., enabling and endorsing massive illegal immigration into the U.S., etc. And the fact that Mexicans are the worst offenders in these categories, regarding gang membership, high-school dropout rates, welfare abuse, imprisonment, and on and on.

All you've done with your hate-filled rhetoric is confirm, with your own stereotypes of me and other white Americans, that you do have a contempt for us and our country. And that you do willingly enable the destruction of our culture, by replacing it with a hispanic culture. You gloat about it.
You delight in prejudicially tormenting those you, hypocritically, claim are the truly prejudiced ones.

But look at your own words. Look at your own actions, as you've just described them. It's you who's behaving with hate and bigotry, it's you who's excluding others. It's you who is stereotyping whites. And once again, your baseless personal remarks about me are yet another attempt by you to box-categorize me to conform, despite what I've said, to your pre-conceived stereotype of a white bigot.

Again, I've dated many, MANY hispanic women. If I were prejudiced against hispanics, I wouldn't socialize with or date hispanic women. I almost married a girl from Spain. I've dated women from just about every race and nationality. I've met immigrants from places like Iraq and Iran where their moving here saved them from being murdered by their governments, and they are supremely grateful and patriotic Americans as a result. My only objection to immigrants is if they don't assimilate, or --as you do-- voice an open hostility toward the whites/Americans who invited them legally into our country. Whether the immigrants in question are from Mexico, Germany, Czech Republic or wherever.


Regarding co-workers of yours you say react with contempt when you talk with co-workers in spanish, has it ever occurred to you that they are not prejudiced, but that they are just annoyed at your rudeness? It's rude to exclude others by not speaking the language you all share. The assumption of anyone in that situation is that they are being deliberately excluded, or so they can be talked about behind their backs.