RKMBs Forums .::Important::. Politics and Current Events Hostages held at Clinton’s NH campaign office.

Because I sincerely meant that Clinton deserved a certain amount of respect for the way she handled this even though I believe that MEM's praise rang hollow given that he praises, or at least defends, everything she does.

I guess I was confused

I've noticed how much you love to pay attention to me.

You wrote a post directly to me. I wrote a response. I'm not sure how that would seem to be undue attention to you.

Actually, the actor Kelsey Grammer, who plays Frasier, is a Republican. On both "Cheers" and his own spin off, it was generally acknowledged that the character Fraiser was a democrat.

Again, an example of your easy confusion.

You post here frequently. You seem to expect replies to your posts. But when anybody actually reads them or notices what you say (or don't say) in them, let alone replies to them, you act as if this is a wholly unexpected thing.

Your inability to comprehend something as simple as "if you post a lot in a particular forum, people will take notice of your posts" seems to be, at best, another example of a confused mind.

But you started the point by referencing fictional characters, Sam and Diane, not actors Ted Danson and Shelly Long. And Danson and Long did not date in real life, so if you try to now say you were referencing the actors, not the fictional characters, your analogy fails again.

Wow, I can swear I remember saying something along the lines of...

I'd respond but he seems to take offense when people read his posts.

Actually I don't think it works to well for Sandwitch either.

I'd respond but he seems to take offense when people read his posts.

Yeah, it completely bothers me. The only thing bothers me more is morons. That's two excuses for you not to respond and actually back up your nonsense.

Your welcome.

More confusion demonstrated.

At one point he says it bothers him. Then he seems to place significance on the need for me to respond. These points are contradictory.

Maybe he can post a photobucket image of a popular piece of political clip art and clear things up that way.

Sarcasm was used.

I thought you might fall back on the "sarcasm/I was only kidding" excuse.

I can accept that you probably were being sarcastic and/or joking around. But I find it odd that you seem rather unable to detect the use of humor in the rest of us.

There's a difference, as you acknowledge, between recognizing humor/sarcasm and enjoying the particular joke or sarcastic remark.

Quite often, I would submit, posters here (including myself and Sammitch) are clearly using sarcasm or humor (my "you seem easily confused" joke being just one example) and you react as if you just don't understand that it was a joke in the first place. Conversely, whenever someone doesn't "get" one of your bon mots, you seem to quickly accuse them of being stupid.

You can't have it both ways.

See, this is all bullshit. Your trying to turn this into a matter of whether you enjoyed the sarcasm but it's not. It's a matter of how you didn't recognize the sarcasm. I KNOW you didn't recognize the sarcasm cause you said my claim that it was sarcasm was an "excuse". Look, your just digging yourself deeper.

There's a difference, as you acknowledge, between recognizing humor/sarcasm and enjoying the particular joke or sarcastic remark.

Quite often, I would submit, posters here (including myself and Sammitch) are clearly using sarcasm or humor (my "you seem easily confused" joke being just one example) and you react as if you just don't understand that it was a joke in the first place. Conversely, whenever someone doesn't "get" one of your bon mots, you seem to quickly accuse them of being stupid.

You can't have it both ways.

The man accused of taking five people hostage at a Hillary Rodham Clinton campaign office desperately wanted help with a drinking problem, but lacked insurance and money to pay for it, his family said Monday.

Leeland Eisenberg, 46, is accused of walking into the Clinton office on Friday afternoon with what appeared to be explosives strapped to his body, demanding to speak to Clinton about mental health care, authorities said.

"It was an act of desperation to try and get help," his stepson, Ben Warren, told ABC's "Good Morning America" Monday.

Eisenberg was scheduled to be arraigned Monday on charges of kidnapping, criminal threatening and fraudulent use of a bomb-like device. The five-hour crisis ended peacefully, after all the hostages were released and Eisenberg walked out to surrender.

His wife, Lisa Warren, told Foster's Sunday Citizen her husband had been binge-drinking for three weeks and desperately wanted help with his problem. She had filed for divorce on Tuesday, and the couple were due to for a domestic violence hearing shortly after Eisenberg allegedly walked into the Clinton office on Friday.

She said Eisenberg saw a televised Clinton campaign ad where a man said the senator helped him when an insurance company refused to pay for his son's medical treatment.

"I still love him, I'm still here and I wish there was something I could have done and that I'm sorry that it ended up this way," Warren told ABC.

The couple have been married for about 1 1/2 years.

"When he was on his medication he was always making me laugh, he spoiled me," she said. "It was perfect in my eyes. But without the medication and (with) the use of the alcohol, he turned into a different person."

Warren said previously she learned after they married that Eisenberg had a troubled past that included a lawsuit against the Catholic Archdiocese of Boston alleging a priest sexually abused him.

His past may have contributed to his problems with alcohol, she said.

"No one could have prevented this unless they knew exactly what was happening," Warren told the newspaper. "I hope that he gets the help he needs, and I'm glad that no one got hurt."

The man accused of taking five people hostage at a Hillary Rodham Clinton campaign office desperately wanted help with a drinking problem, but lacked insurance and money to pay for it, his family said Monday.