Originally Posted By: Wonder Boy

Ray, your posts show a pathological hatred of whoever doesn't believe exactly what you do. You have a pathological need to baselessly slander me or anyone else who deviates from your fanatical ideas.

You are the definition of an arrogant spoiled child, in desperate need of discipline. The level of spitefulness you display is way beyond how a balanced person would react.

the guy who blames liberals for everything under the sun and feminism for the downfall of society (your words) saying that is funny.
and i can accept different views, unless those views are born from hatred and fear. at that point they're irrational. should i not put down a racist because he has another point of view?

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And the "people who just want to come here and work" are here illegally !
If they "just wanted to come here and work", they would have gone through the proper channels and applied for a visa before coming here.

because they're impoverished and the idea of filling out all those forms and waiting years in poverty to get approval might seem impossible to them.

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But since 1 in 12 of them caught by border security is a criminal, that speaks for itself of the true situation, despite your slanderous lies.

there are plenty of American criminals too so your statistics on that are irelevent.


 Originally Posted By: wondy


As I've said many times, a ratio of foreign influence, as was the case with past immigrant waves, is vastly different from the uncontrolled foreign invasion that is occurring now.

more xenophobia. America is based on many cultures. It's whole origins are that of different cultures living together.

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And I described whites fleeing California along with middle/upper-class blacks as well both of whom are alienated by the uncontrolled hispanic immigration into California, and the gangs, crime, decreasing wages, and increasing taxpayer dollars spent on services to people who aren't even U.S. citizens.

no, you said "white population." Ialready dug up the quote a few weeks back. you said white population. only when confronted did you add blacks to it.

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Californians voted, including a percentage of more patriotic California hispanics, for Proposition 187, to end these benefits to illegals, and were usurped by a liberal judge.

the role of a judge is sometimes to overturn laws that are unconstitutional.
that's not "liberal evil" that's the foundation of the American system of justice.

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You constantly try to spin demographics where I so much as mention whites, to slander me as some kind of white-only racist. That is pure slander on your part, and in complete contradiction to what I've consistently said.

i'm not the only one who sees you as a racist. in fact no one really supports your views completely on this. even the conservatives here shy away from supporting you. you have shown that you accept small numbers of minorities as long as they act and think just like you.

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Whereas your prejudicial hatred is clearly on display.

yes i hate racism, sexism, and xenophobic people afraid of change in the world.

 Originally Posted By: wondy

The L.A. Times?
Fox News?
The Center For IMmigration Studies ?
Vdare ?
Worldnet Daily ?

some give statistics that you interpret and some (like Fox News) make their money getting people riled up.

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Yeah, right.
Anyone who disagrees with you is a white-only racist who hates minorities. Anyone who reports facts you don't like.

anyone who disagrees that people of different races and cultures can live together, anyone who is terrified of strangers moving in, anyone who calls a bunch of mexicans who come and look for jobs as janitors an "invasion" is a racist.

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No, you falsely accuse anyone who views the facts differently than you do, who advocates equality without racial quotas, who advocates a unified America in which everyone assimilates to a unified english-speaking American culture (instead of a balkanized liberal culture that is becoming a babel of different languages and cultures, that Democrats can rally against white America's alleged sins, to exploit the fear of minorities to consistently get bloc votes).
I advocate a system where we have true unity and stop the blame game.

blame game? you're still using that Fox News/Bush buzz phrase, huh?
America will be english-speaking for as long as it lasts. Empires rise and fall. America is not made up of one race or creed, it never has been. There really isn't even one form of english spoken here. We have regional dialects and cultures. Stop living in fear of something different. The world changes and the best change would come through living alongside newcomers. racial tensions are caused by people like you. If you have some mexicans at work and you act hostile towards their differences they will pick up on that and be encouraged to stick with others of their race. but if you dropped the hostility and dropped the idea that we all have to be perfectly alike and just treated them like people you would get more of the results you want. people like you are creating this cultural divide by making Americans seem like racist fucks.

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You advocate demonizing conservatives and blaming them for problems that liberal policies have caused: expanded welfare, forced busing, racial quotas, race-baiting, and out-of-control immigration. Pointing out that there are 20 million illegals in the U.S. is not "racism", it's addressing a serious problem to the economy, unity and sovereignty of the United States.

Pointing out a statistic to back up a racist point is racism. It's like pointing out the number of black people arrested to make the point that black people are criminals is racism.

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Morons in the Roman Empire hailed the "open-mindedness" of their leaders for letting in massive waves of immigrants too. Just before the same Vandals and Visigoths pillaged and destroyed their Western Kingdom. How very enlightened of you.

And yet the world survived. No empire lasts forever. And if you want to blame the downfall of Rome on immigrants then you have to also look at over expansion of the empire, the corruption of the republic, and other reasons.
either way the world changes, people change. Out of Rome came many countries. America will not last forever. The best thing to do is to not spread hatred and xenophobia. Try getting along with people, try accepting them as having a right to live their lives.
And even if you were right that this is a threat to America, there are much bigger threats. Why don't you bemoan the christian right for dividing America and demonizing everyone in the population who is liberal? And if liberalism is so evil, why do you watch movies or any media since pretty much all art is by liberals? why aren't you harsher on Reagan and Bush for funding bin Laden and Hussein and creating hatred and contempt for America on a global scale? why don't you attack fast food for shortening American lifespans and lowering health overall? why don't you attack the majority of christianity which has become more about hatred and fear than love and acceptance?
seems to me that you pick the things to be angry about that allow you to feel superior, to feel safe and comforted by living in fear and hatred. because as long as you have some foreign invader, the shit in your life has an explanation. and you have something external to blame instead of actually working to improve yourself or your community.

Bow ties are coool.